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Descendants of Pattle Progenitor 2015-35301

Eighth Generation


44. Pattle Maria-40387 (James Peter , Thomas , Edward , Edward , Edward , Hugh , Progenitor 2015 ) was born in 1818. She died in 1892.

Code-red. http - pillagoda-golden.htm Table. She has only three drs in James King on V Woolf, p. 9. The Pattle girls are raised in Calcutta but educated at Versailles. Marler, p. xxiii. She has six sisters, all beauties, the seven of them. Annan on Leslie Stephen, p. 76. Named as Maria in Annan p. 365 of notes. thepeerage.com.

Maria married Dr Md Calcutta Jackson John-40386 son of Jackson George-66454 and Howard Mary-93347 in 1837 in Calcutta. John was born in 1804. He died in 1887.

Website on Clanbarker. See also data per Mary Hover. Table. Marler, ed, p. xxiii, the Pattle girls' maternal grandmother is Therese Blin de Grincourt at/of Versailles, France. He is a leading physician at Medical College at Calcutta. His wife goes home in 1848 for health reasons; this wife Maria is sister of Sarah and her husband Thoby Prinsep, a retired Anglo-India administrator. Annan on Leslie Stephen, p. 365 or notes, this man a wimp, somehow not thought of as father's usually are in their families. He is from a family of EICo officials. Mowle's Genealogy.

John and Maria had the following children:

+ 63 F i wife2, widow Prinsep Julia-38083 was born in 1846. She died in 1895.
  64 F ii Jackson Virginia Pattle-16021 was born on 14 Jan 1827. She died on 29 Sep 1910.

In http - pillagoda- golden.htm she may marry Henry Somerset later Duke Bedford. Data per Mary Hover. She also is first cousin to Duchess of Bedford and to Lady Henry Somerset the dr-in-law of Duke of Beaufort. See Annan on Leslie Stephen, pp. 6ff. Per G. Chaseling and Alan Atkinson.
        Virginia married Earl Somers Somerset Charles Somers-8959 son of Duke6 Beaufort, Kg Somerset Henry Charles-109792 and Leveson-Gower Charlotte Sophia-44408 on 2 Oct 1850. Charles was born on 14 Jul 1819. He died on 26 Sep 1883.

See data per Mary Hover. Named in Annan on Leslie Stephen, pp. 6ff.
+ 65 F iii Jackson Adeline Maria Miss-42332 was born in 1837. She died in 1881.
+ 66 F iv Jackson Mary Louisa-43979 was born in 1841. She died in 1916.
  67 M v Jackson John Corrie-554584 was born in 1839.

45. Pattle Sarah Monckton-31228 (James Peter , Thomas , Edward , Edward , Edward , Hugh , Progenitor 2015 ) was born in 1816 in Bengal India. She died in 1887.

Code-red. Data per Mary Hover. In private the Pattle sisters sometimes speak in Hindustani. She is named Sara in IGI but not surnamed Pattle, her first name is not given, in Annan on Leslie Stephen, notes, p. 365. Update from website on McCann of Milton Keynes, UK accessed 28-9-2007.

Sarah married Sir, MP, EICo Prinsep Henry Thoby-6218 son of EICo, Indigo planter, of India, London,convict contractor Prinsep John-51239 and Auriol Sophia Elizabeth-51240. Henry was born on 15 Jul 1793. He died on 11 Feb 1878.

Code-red. Update from website on McCann of Milton Keynes, UK accessed 28-9-2007. He is son4. He is born 1798 in e-mail from John Pretty of 28-2-2007 and is son of William, brother of Henry Thoby P and is not son of Henry Thoby P. His own entry by A. J. Arbuthnot in English DNB 2004 edition. See Hodson lists. He is Sir in data per Mary Hover. IGI Internet has it that he is christened 18 Aug 1792 at Mountnessing, Essex, England, Batch No. CO47471 son of John and Sophia his mother. He became an EICo writer from 1809, later an assistant to a mgistrate. From 1814 he was asst to secretary ot Gov-General Lord Moira. He retired from India in 1843. He failed to enter politics, but in 1850 became a director of EICo. In 1853 he wrote a tract, The India Question. He remained on Council of India to 1874. Circle of V. Woolf. He is some relative maybe cousin of painter Val Prinsep. He buys (Spalding on V. Bell, pp. 2ff) Little Holland House, at suggestion of sculptor/painter Watts. The house attracts guests such as Gladstone, Disraeli, Rosetti, Tennyson, Browning, Carlyle and Thackeray. On his wife Sara Pattle see Frances Spalding on Vanessa Bell, pp. 2ff. He is in Annan on Leslie Stephen qv, an uncle of Stephen's wife, Julia Jackson-Duckworth. See him as Orientalist in Clive biog of Macaulay. He is member, Council of East Indies. See Burke's Landed Gentry for Gurney of North Runcton. Member of Council of India in 1835 and 1840-43. Director of EICo 1850-1858. He is in Bengal CS from 1809. son4. MP for Queenborough. Stenton, Brit Partls, p. 320. See Prinsep in ADB cdrom. He retired to England from India in 1847. IGI. S. B. Singh on Agency houses, he is acting secretary about 1827 to Govt Territorial Dept in India, at a time when some European and Indian agency houses are going under. See A. C. Staples, Memoirs of William Prinsep, Calcutta years, 1817-1842., Indian Economic and Social History Review, Vol. 26, No. 2, April-June, 1989., pp. 61-79. See p. 370 of Clive's biography of T. B. Macaulay historian. Annan, p. 365 of Notes on Sir Leslie Stephen. IGI Internet has it that he is christened 18 Aug 1792 at Mountnessing, Essex, England, Batch No. CO47471 son of John and Sophia his mother. circle of V. Woolf. Update from website on McCann of Milton Keynes, UK accessed 28-9-2007. Camilla von Massenbach genealogy.

Henry and Sarah had the following children:

+ 68 M i Sir Prinsep Henry Thoby Auriol-57502 was born in 1830. He died in 1914.
+ 69 M ii Painter, Ra Prinsep Valentine Cameron-1787 was born in 1838. He died in 1904.
  70 F iii Igi entry only Prinsep Virginia-41160 was born in 1848 in probably. She was christened on 1 Aug 1848 in St James,Paddington.

Camilla von Massenbach genealogy http. IGI only.
+ 71 F iv Prinsep Alice Maria-6784 was born in 1844. She died in 1919.
+ 72 M v Of India Prinsep Henry Thoby II-326334 was born in 1836. He died in 1914.
  73 M vi Lt-General Prinsep Arthur Haldimand-56990 was born in 1840 in Bengal India. He died in 1915.

Camilla von Massenbach fenealogy http citing Hart's Army List. 11 Bengal Cavalry. Update from website on McCann of Milton Keynes, UK accessed 28-9-2007.
        Arthur married Smith Julia Caroline-50670 daughter of Smith James Webster-160356 and SNotknown Miss-19774 in 1888. Julia was born in 1847 in Belfast.

Update from website on McCann of Milton Keynes, UK accessed 28-9-2007.
  74 F vii Prinsep May-422129.

Probably died young. Camilla von Massenbach genealogy http.

46. Pattle Louisa Calbrook Colebrooke-23809 (James Peter , Thomas , Edward , Edward , Edward , Hugh , Progenitor 2015 ) was born in 1821 in ,No4. She died in 1873.

Code-red. In data per Mary Hover she is named Calbrook (Colebrooke?) after Charles Pattle's arch enemy in India, at the Delhi residency, Calbrook not qv. Chart by R. Pattle of Suffolk.

Louisa married Justice Bayley Henry Vincent-13786 son of Sir Bayley Steuart Colvin-51372 and Farquharson Anna-49582 in 1838. Henry was born in 1816. He died in 1873.

Hodson lists. He smokes a hookah in The Bengal Club. In data per Mary Hover, his family has for three generations filled "exalted positions" in India. see name Henry Butterworth Bayley. Table. Annan on Sir Leslie Stephen, p. 365 of notes. He has dr Mia who has son Sir Patrick McNanamara Rear Admiral 1886-1957. Chart by R. Pattle of Suffolk.

Henry and Louisa had the following children:

+ 75 F i Bayley Maria-58634 died in 1917.
  76 F ii Bayley Adeline Anne-551816 was born in 1842.
        Adeline married Dr Md Mactier William F.-551817 son of Mactier Progenitor-627870 and MNotknown Miss-627871.

47. Pattle Sophia Ricketts-23808 (James Peter , Thomas , Edward , Edward , Edward , Hugh , Progenitor 2015 ) was born in 1829. She died in 1911.

Code-red. Hodson lists. Burke's P&B for Hamilton-Dalrymple line. Chart by R. Pattle of Suffolk.

Sophia married Sir Bart7 Bengal Cs Dalrymple John Warrender-13731 son of Lt-General Sir Bart5 Dalrymple John-108418 and Warrender Charlotte-129175. John was born on 28 May 1824. He died on 28 Dec 1888.

Burke's for Dalrymple. Chart by R. Pattle of Suffolk. Dates from Mary Hover data. Table. Annan, p. 365 of notes on Sir Leslie Stephen, qv. See also http update on line of Greaves qv.

John and Sophia had the following children:

+ 77 M i Sir Bart8 Dalrymple Walter-63904 was born in 1854. He died in 1920.
+ 78 F ii Dalrymple Virginia Julian-60904.

48. Pattle Virginia-53498 (James Peter , Thomas , Edward , Edward , Edward , Hugh , Progenitor 2015 ) was born in 1827. She died in 1910.

thepeerage.com. Code-red. See also Chart by R. Pattle of Suffolk. From Mary Hover, from "Savoy Net Sorceror Discussion" (Gilbert and Sullivan Archive), dated 8.1.17, The Delectable Lady Eastnor, Couts Lindsay founded the Grosvenor Gallery. Did he have relationship with this woman? She is said to be so staggeringly beautiful, passers-by stopped dead in their tracks at sight of her. The painter G. F. Watts came to stay at her house for three days and stayed 30 years. she is Table. See Annan on Leslie Stephen, qv. Burke's P&B for Somers.

Virginia married Visc Eastnor Earl3 Somers Somers Charles-118810 son of Somers John Earl2 Somers-56193 and Lady Yorke Caroline Harriet-121479. Charles was born on 14 Jul 1810 in Somerset. He died on 26 Sep 1883.

thepeerage.com says he was born on 14 July 1819., See also chart by R. Pattle of Suffolk. See also data per Mary Hover. See Annan on Leslie Stephen, qv. Burke's P&B for Somers. Stenton, Brits Parlts, Vol. 1, p. 356. GEC, Peerage, Bedford, p. 87.

Charles and Virginia had the following children:

  79 F i had issue Somers Adeline Mary (Somers-Cocks)-118809 was born on 24 May 1852.

She is dr2. Chart by R. Pattle of Suffolk. Circle of Virginia Woolf. Stenton, Brit Parls, Vol. 1, p. 372. GEC, Peerage, Bedford, p. 87.
        Adeline married Duke13 Bedofrd, Earl16 Bedford Russell George William-53495 son of Russell Francis Charles Earl15 Bedford Duke10 Bedford-138655 and Sackville-West Elizabeth-18836 on 24 Oct 1876. George was born on 16 Apr 1852. He died on 23 Mar 1893.

He is son1. He has no issue in Pattle chart. He is 10th Duke Bedford in Pattle chart. He is George William Francis. Chart by R. Pattle of Suffolk. Stenton, Brit Partls, Vol. 1, p. 372. His estate netted £321,351. GEC, Peerage, Bedford, p. 87
+ 80 F ii Lady Somers-Cocks Isabella Caroline Somers-99011 was born in 1851. She died in 1921.
  81 F iii Somers Virginia-119172 was born in 1853. She died in 1857.

Chart by R. Pattle of Somerset.

49. Photographer Pattle Julia Margaret-22455 (James Peter , Thomas , Edward , Edward , Edward , Hugh , Progenitor 2015 ) was born on 11 May 1815. She was christened in 1862. She died on 26 Jan 1879.

Code-red. When this woman is 50 her dr Julia gives her a camera, so she becomes a noted Victorian photographer. She knows Hallam Tennyson well. James King, p. 8 on V Woolf. Annan's book on Sir Leslie Stephen, p. 365 of notes. See books on V. Woolf and Vanessa Bell from Georgina Chaseling. In 1862 she takes a pic of Minnie Thackeray mourning her father in 1862, see Annan's book on Sir Leslie Stephen. Burke's Landed Gentry for Cameron of Lochiel. http from stirnet.com on Cameron.

Julia married Gov Bahamas, Banker, Lawyer Cameron Charles Hay-32165 son of Banker, Gov Bahamas Cameron Charles-5738 and Lady Hay Margaret-39642 in 1838. Charles died in 1880.

Code-red. He is banker/partner with Harley, Cameron and Co, bankers, he is of Freshwater, Isle of Wight, Gov Bahamas, 1804-1820. Burke's Landed Gentry for Cameron of Lochiel. In items from Mary Hover he is one of Macaulay's colleagues on Law Commission in India, and later legal member of (Bengal?) Council. See data per Mary Hover. See Frances Spalding on Vanessa Bell. See Annan on Sir Leslie Stephen qv. James King on Virginia Woolf, p. 8. McCaughey et al on Govs of Vic for Sir Charles Darling, p. 121. http from stirnet.com on Cameron.

Charles and Julia had the following children:

+ 82 M i Lt-Colonel Cameron Eugene Hay-52553.
+ 83 F ii wife1 Cameron Julia-55168 died on 3 Oct 1873.

52. Pattle Adeline Marian No2-96640 (James Peter , Thomas , Edward , Edward , Edward , Hugh , Progenitor 2015 ) was born on 19 Feb 1812 in India. She died on 28 May 1836 in at sea.

Code-red. She is Mary in data per Mary Hover. Table. Annan's book, p. 365 listing marriages of Pattle sisters.

Adeline married General Mackenzie Colin-109361 son of Sir Bart, Gov Granada Mackenzie Kenneth Francis-81769 and Townsend Anne Townshend-29179 on 28 May 1832. Colin was born in 1806 in London. He died in 1881.

Gutenberg file on Mackenzies. Of Mackenzies of Redcastle. He wins distinction in first Afghan War in Mary Hover data but there marries Mary not Adeline (?). Table. Annan, p. 365 on Leslie Stephen, qv. He is of Madras army in Lt-Col Shakespear, p. 90.

Colin and Adeline had the following children:

+ 84 F i Mackenzie Adeline-45935 was born in Mar 1833. She died in 1902.
+ 85 F ii Mackenzie Mary Julia Blanche-179532 was born in 1834. She died in 1862.
+ 86 F iii See Rose Prinsep Glogstoun qv Mackenzie Rose Prinsep-179533 was born in Oct 1835. She died in 1913.

53. Pattle Ruth Casson-63348 (Thomas Charles , Thomas , Edward , Edward , Edward , Hugh , Progenitor 2015 ) died on 10 Mar 1829.

She is generation 3 in data per Mary Hover. Is she sister of Eliza Susan. Her fr marries secondly, Eliz the sister of Rbt Brooke Dr by marriage 1 of her fr. Capt Thos Pattle. Burke's Landed Gentry for Brooke of Sarawak. Runciman, pp. 45ff.

Ruth married Captain Brooke Robert-34385 son of Capt mariner Brooke Robert-93506 and Collett Elizabeth-530218. Robert was born in 1727. He was christened on 5 May 1727.

http update. Hodson lists. In Mary Hover data he is of Goodman Fields, Whitechapel. He owns part of a ship the Speke in 1764-65. See Pattles as part owner of ship of that name maybe per Mary Hover. Burke's Landed Gentry for Brooke of Sarawak.

Robert and Ruth had the following children:

+ 87 M i Judge High Court EICo, a fortune Brooke Thomas-18814 was born in 1760. He died on 30 Dec 1835.

54. wife1 Pattle Eliza Susan-114408 (Thomas Charles , Thomas , Edward , Edward , Edward , Hugh , Progenitor 2015 ) was born in 1799. She died in 1820.

According to Tony Cairns, NZ her name is Eliza Anne Frances Pattle. Data per Mary Hover. Bloomfield, p. 35 she is Eliza Anne Frances Pattle. Her fr and father of Rajah Brooke of Sarawak were half-cousins. Bloomfield, table. See Pike, Dissent.

Eliza married Coloniser, NZCo, WACo. land developer, slaver Wakefield Edward Gibbon-15821 son of Land agent Wakefield Edward-89572 and wife1 Crash Susan Susanna Crush-72366 on 27 Jul 1816. Edward was born on 20 Mar 1796 in London. He died on 16 May 1862 in Wellington,Nz.

cozens2 Blain research. Backer of Canterbury Association. His own entry by David J. Moss, in English DNB, 2004 edition, indicates an intended £30,000 did not come his way as Eliza Pattle died before her 21st birthday. See http - nzbound. See data per Mary Hover. He is friends with Sir Wm Molesworth 8Bart and Charles Buller. There is discrepancy in Bloomfield on his parent/mother re views of other sources. Cf., Paul Bloomfield, Edward Gibbon Wakefield: Builder of the British Commonwealth. London, Longmans, Green and Co., 1961. In the 1820s he has bro-in-law Charles Torlesse. He has dr Nina. His wife dies as Jerningham is born. C and C Mason book, intro, Wakefield is of Adam St, Adelphi and later Broad Street in the City, kinsman of Barclay and banker and cousin of prison reformer Elizabeth Fry. Cf., W Colenso, The Authentic and Genuine History of the Signing of the Treaty of Waitangi, 1890. Cf., Hon. W. Petre, Account of the Settlements of the New Zealand Company, 1841. Scholefield's book on Hobson p. 198ff has text of NZCo's instructions to Col Wakefield, Principal Agent of the Co [April 1839]. See Scholefield on Hobson has it p. 150 that The Scots Company interested in NZ has president Walter F. Campbell and a director Admiral Sir Patrick Campbell. Cf., R. Garnett, CB, LLD, author of Edward Gibbon Wakefield, nd, cited p. 78 in Scholefield on Hobson first gov of NZ. Cf., Peter Stuart, Edward Gibbon Wakefield in New Zealand: His Political Career, 1853-1854. Wellington, NZ, Price Milburn for Victoria University of Wellington, 1971. He marries an heiress Eliza Pattle when young, elopes, she is sixteen, has two children, dies in 1820 after four years of marriage, but in 1826 he went off with another heiress Ellen Turner to a Gretna Green Marriage, family upset, three years' jail, in Hasluck, Thos Peel, p. 121. In Hasluck, Thos Peel, variously. He is member of the post-1835 Western Australian Co, Hasluck, p. 218. He elopes with Eliza Pattle c 1827 and has three years in Newgate, narrowly escapes transportation. Pike, Dissent, p. 52, p. 75. Wakefield's views and adherents bridge the old and the new, from humanitarian ideas of Horton for pauper resettlement to utilitarian theories of Wakefield post-Bentham, linked by National Colonisation Society, as Wakefield first meets Gouger. Pike, Dissent, p. 42-43, in 1831 a temporary board of commissioners set up with Duke of Richmond, Lord Howick, F. T. Baring, H. Ellis and R. W. Hay with T. F. Elliott as secretary in a room at Colonial Office at 14 Downing St, and once it is set up a steerage price to eg Aust dropped from £35 pounds to £16 pounds. partly as it is decided to sell land in NSW and VDL to raise £10,000 to promote emigration. Info was to be distributed by T. F. Elliott, but the despatch of emigrants was left to volunteer philanthropists later known as the London Emigration Society who has sent out 12 ships by 1835, sec of committee was John Marshall, and Sir Wm Molesworth thought only that Marshall sent female prostitutes to Sydney and Hobart. See Poor Law Act of 1834, a link for parishes and Colonial Office was a dept clerk, J. D. Pinnock, appointed Emigration Agent. in 1836, T. F. Elliott is promoted to post of agent-general for emigration, with right to communicate direct with govs of NSW and VDL. It is found that unscrupulous agents and shipowners will exploit situations arising. Max's thesis, p. 47, note 67, p. 48, notes 73-74. this man is opposed to transportation yet recommended the use of slaves from Africa, also, of Chinese. See Burke's P&B for Freeman Attwood, formerly of Sion Hill. More to come.

Edward and Eliza had the following children:

  88 F i Wakefield Nina Unm Susan an invalid-12018 was born in 1817 in Piedmont,,Italy. She died in 1835 in Lisbon,,Portugal.

She is Susan Priscilla in Chart by R. Pattle of Suffolk. She is denoted an invalid daughter in Pike, Dissent, prior to p. 66.
+ 89 M ii Mp, Author, of Nz Wakefield Edward Jerningham-18316 was born in 1820. He died in 1879.

55. Illegit Pattle Eliza Henrietta-97943 (Henry John James , Thomas , Edward , Edward , Edward , Hugh , Progenitor 2015 ) was born in 1803. She died in 1890.

From an emailer to Mary Hover sent to the present author.

Eliza married Lt Clinton-Baddeley Clinton-30190 son of General Clinton-Baddeley William Clinton-41067 and Sloane Catherine Elizabeth-536432 in 1849 in Cawnpore India. Clinton was born in 1827. He died in 1852.

He is son of General William Clinton Baddeley qv. Emailer Rogan Coles of Hong Kong to Mary Hover.

Clinton and Eliza had the following children:

+ 90 M i Colonel Clinton-Baddeley William Lewis-115262 was born in 1849. He died in 1936.

60. Rocke Frederick Becher-557796 (Sarah Susannah Pattle , Thomas , Edward , Edward , Edward , Hugh , Progenitor 2015 ) was born in 1799. He died about 1871.

Sundry genforum mentions. He is of Slaugham. Does he marry Catherine Murray? and Amelia Maria Bowles? Does he marry Eliza Mary Scott? Of EICo army. On staff of Governor? Did he marry Amelie Therese and have children Constance Pauline, Blanche Marie and Frederick Magloire with some connections to Smiths?

Frederick married (1) wife1 Scott Eliza Mary-557807 daughter of Scott Progenitor-384118 and SNotknown Miss-106999.

Frederick married (2) wife2 Bowles Amelia Maria-557808 daughter of Bowles Progenitor-566970 and BNotknown Miss-566971. Amelia died in 1863.

2017 updates.

Frederick and Amelia had the following children:

  91 F i Rocke Constance Pauline-557810.

Older sister.
        Constance married Lt-Colonel Emigrant to Nz Smith Thomas Hardwicke-557812 son of Smith Progenitor 2017-557813 and SNotknown Miss-557814. Thomas was born in 1830 in Castletown Isle of Man.

He had at least 4 children by one of his wives. 2017 updates and gaps19hh
  92 F ii Rocke Blanche Maria-557811.
        Blanche married Lt-Colonel Emigrant to Nz Smith Thomas Hardwicke-557812 son of Smith Progenitor 2017-557813 and SNotknown Miss-557814. Thomas was born in 1830 in Castletown Isle of Man.

He had at least 4 children by one of his wives. 2017 updates and gaps19hh

Frederick married (3) Murray Catherine-557809 daughter of Murray Progenitor-501245 and MNotknown Miss-577067.

61. Magistrate Pattle Thomas Philip Marmaduke-24731 (Thomas , Thomas , Edward , Edward , Edward , Hugh , Progenitor 2015 ) was born in Jun 1849 in Westminster,South Africa. He died on 11 Dec 1890 in Butterworth,Transkei.

He emigrates to South Africa in 1875. His pic is on a website. At Butterworth, South Africa. Data per Mary Hover. Scott's End website.

Thomas married Barter Annie-24408 daughter of Barter Senior-191340 and BNotknown Miss-191341. Annie was born in 1852 in Circa. She died in 1930.

dr of? She may have a mystery son in Canada. Data per Mary Hover. Scott's End website.

Thomas and Annie had the following children:

  93 M i Pattle Cecil John St John-13844.
  94 M ii Pattle Rupert James Hartwell-10041 was born on 30 Apr 1883. He died on 3 Oct 1932.

See name Godfrey in Pattle lists. Scott's End website. Data per Mary Hover.
        Rupert married Godfrey Nellie Caroline-32540 daughter of Godfrey Senior-191752 and GNotknown Miss-191753. Nellie was born on 2 Aug 1886. She died on 23 Nov 1972.

Data per Mary Hover.
  95 M iii Pattle Frank Montague Ormond-78688.
  96 M iv Pattle Harold Alfred-78687.
  97 M v Pattle Thomas Frederick Cuthbert-98874.

Scott's End website.

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