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31. US President third Jefferson Thomas-1394 (Peter (Surveyor) Virginia Planter , Thomas II , Thomas Snr , John , Progenitor ) was born in Apr 1743. He died on 4 Jul 1826.

In April 2001 arises newspaper report he is probably not the father of children by Sally Hemings, possibly it was his brother Randolph? The Sir John Sinclair he met in London in 1786 is now apparently identified. Note that in Claude G. Bowers The Young Jefferson, it is noted, p. 347 that when TJ went to Paris he went on ship Ceres (out of Boston?) Capt St Barbe, a ship owned by Mr Tracy who was aboard on the trip to Portsmouth, where TJ had a mild fever. There may be some odd matters on ship ownership re first US ships to Asia in Anthony Dickinson on Falklands Sealing Industry see notes to Shaw qv, Benj Hussey qv, On idea that US had awareness of plan to settle convicts or Loyalists at Australia per Shaw US consul at Canton see Norman Bartlett, Australa and America through 200 years, 1776-1976. Sydney. Ure Smith. 1976. p. 17. Why would America be unaware of what was in London newspapers? p. pp. 28-30, Bartlett says that British EICo ruined British efforts at Nootka Sound, so left it to US ships. Re Ledyard, pp. 12ff. Cf., Lewis Namier, (641.07), England in the Age of the American Revolution. London. Macmillan. Ed 2. 1961. has merchant names VIP. eg Drax p. 366. Cf, Curtis P. Nettels, Money Supply of American Colonies before 1720. A. M. Kelley. Clifton, USA. 1973. 332.4973. Note that General John Minor qv was present at the surrender of Cornwallis in 1781. Note that when TJ talks with Sir John Sinclair, Sinclair is a highly motivated agricultural improver. ie, agrarianism is TJ's agenda. Cf., V. G. Setser, The Commercial Reciprocity Policy of the United States, 1774-1829. Philadelphia, 1937, cited in Holden Furber on beginnings of US-India trade, p. 246, Note 22., and also see Furber here on Jay's treaty. How much can be granted to Ritcheson in Loyalist Influence p. 3 where he says that the diplomatic efforts in London of John Adams, Jefferson, in 1786, and Gouveneur Morris in 1790, that Tory Loyalists had worked against them from motives of losses and disappointments, as well as Loyalist support for the British moves in [Canada] such as fortification of the Canadian border, construction of a Great Lakes fleet, intrigue amongst Indians, retention of posts in the Old Northwest ceded by US to the treaty of Peace? as these are listed by Ritcheson p. 3. It was John Dickinson qv who made an alarm about EICo and Bengal famine. AM Schlesinger in Colonial Merchants p. 59 cites John Adams as franker than nmost when he wrote, "I know not why we should blush to confess that molassses was an essential ingredient in American independence."; and on p. 39 he has, Note 1, cites Oliver Wolcott writing, "It is a firmly established opinion of men well-versed in the history of our revolution, that the whiggism of Virginia was chiefly owing to the debts of the planters.", citing Note 1, British influence on the Affairs of the United States Proved and Explained,
Boston. 1804., quoted by C. A. Beard, Economic Origins of Jeffersonian Democracy. New York. 1915. pp. 297-298. Schlesinger p. 39 Note 1 writes, "It will be recalled that the question of payment of the pre-Revolutionary private debts to British merchants occupied the attention of the British and American governments in the treaties of 1783 and 1794 and in the convention of 1802. The claims presented against the commercial provinces amounted to £218,000, those against the plantation provinces, 3,869,000. The former figure consisted, in large part, of claims on behalf of American loyalists for compensation, while this is not true in the latter case. See Gray and Wykoff, The International Tobacco Trade in the Seventeenth Century, Southern Economic Journal. VII, 1940-1941., pp. 1-26.; Louis B. Wright, The First Gentlemen of Virginia: Intellectual Qualities of the Early Colonial Ruling Class. San Marino, Calif. 1940.; cf Michael Hall, Edmund Randolph and the American Colonies.; Manfred Jonas, The Claiborne-Calvert Controversy: An Episode in the Colonization of North America, Jahrbuch fur Amerikaastudien, XI, 1966, pp. 241-250.; Richard Beale Davis, (Ed), William Fitzhugh and His Chesapeake World, 1676-1701: The Fitzhugh Letters and other Documents. Chapel Hill, NC, 1963.; S. G. Culliford, William Strachey, 1572-1621. Charlottesville. Va. 1965.; John C. Rainbolt, A New Look at Stuart 'Tyranny': The Crown's Attack on the Virginia Assembly, 1676-1689, VMHB, LXXV, 1967. pp. 387-406.; John D. Krugler, Sir George Calvert's Resignation as Secretary of State and the Founding of Maryland. Maryland Hist Mag, LXVIII, 1973., pp. 239-254.; p. 55 in an essay James Horn, Servant Emigration to the Chesapeake in the Seventeenth Century, pp. 51ff of Tate and Ammerman, p. 55, > first ordnance passed by Brit Parlt to prevent kidnapping in 1645, ten years later Bristol passed its own legislation requiring all servants to be registered before transportation, hence the Bristol lists of indentured servants going out and in London the Lord Mayor's Waiting Books at the Guildhall. Yet the spiriting away of people did continue.; Horn's essay p. 65, Note 42, mentions His Majesties charter to the Lord Baltimore, translated into English, London, 1635.; Cf Susan Myra Kingsbury, (Ed), The Records of the Virginia Company of London. ... Washington DC. 1906-1935. III, p. 266 etc.; check issues of the Genealogists Magazine. Horn p. 75 on servant emigration notes from Peter Bowden, "the third, fourth and fifth decades of the seventeenth century witnessed extreme hardship in England, and were probably among the most terrible years through which the country has ever passed. It is probably no coincidence that the first real beginnings of colonization of America date from this period."; B. E. Supple, Commercial Crisis and Change in England, 1600-1642: a study in the instability of a Mercantile Economy. Cambridge. 1959.; David Underdown, Somerset in the Civil War and Interregnum. Newton Abbot. 1973.; James Horn in Tate and Ammerman, p. 87, a remarkable number of individuals involved in servant trade and great diversity in their backgrounds. Over a thousand masters transported servants to America from Bristol between 1654 and 1660, of whom 400 traded with Virginia and Maryland. about a third of Chesapeake masters described themselves as mariners, a fifth were merchants, about 10 per cent were planters. the trade in servants not monopolized by a minority of wealthy merchants as has been thought. whole trading communities were involved. ; cf Wilcomb E. Washburn, Virginia under Charles I and Cromwell, 1625-1660. Williamsburg Va. 1957.; James Horn p. 90, Note 110, between 1606 and 1660, 1304 merchants engaged in trade with Virginia from London and outports, of these only 81.4 per cent had only one voyage.; James Horn pp. 92-93, in Bristol circa 1650, Valentine Price and Edward Lapselly of Bristol engaged with Nicholas Dangerfield of St Christopher to supply 20 men/boy servants".; for records on how servants were recruited in London for America from 1750 see William Eddis, Letters from America, Ed, Aubrey C. Land. Cambridge Mass, 1969. Richard S. Dunn, Puritans and Yankees: The Winthrop Dynasty of New England, 1630-1717. Princeton NJ., 1962.,; on politics see Jackston T. Main, The One Hundred. WM Qtly, Series 3, XI, 1954., pp. 354-384. Robert and B. Katherine Brown, Virginia 1705-1786: Democracy or Aristocracy? East Lansing, Mich. 1964. VIP.; R. A. Brock, Ed., The Official Letters of Alexander Spotswood, Lt-Gov of the Colony of Virginia, 1710-1722. Virginia History Sco, Collections, NS, I-II, Richmond Va 1882-1885.; Aubrey C. Land, The Dulanys of Maryland: a Biographical Study of Daniel Dulany, the Elder, 1685-1753 and Daniel Dulany the Younger, 1722-1797. Baltimore. 1955.; cf David Alan Williams, Anglo-Virginia Politics, 1690-1735, in Alison Olson and Richard Maxwell Brown, (Eds), Anglo-American Political Relations, 1675-1775. New Brunswick NJ. 1970.; Titles << are from Thad W. Tate and David L. Ammerman, (Eds), [per Alan Atkinson], The Chesapeake in the Seventeenth Century: Essays on Anglo-American Society. New York. Norton. 1979. Note re citation on Banks from Nexus Magazine of Feb-March 1994, from title Richard Kelly Hoskins, War Cycles - Peace Cycles, Virginia Publishing Co, PO Box 997, Lynchburg Va 24505 USA. nd < Notes Jefferson born Shadwell, Goochland Co, Va, (Albemarle), in 1762 graduated from W&M College, in 1774 had view Parlt had no authority in colonies, only bond being allegiance to the King an enemy of aristocracy (ie, against rule of primogeniture), in 1779 TJ became Gov of Va, drafted governance of the N/w territory. Events in 1786 left him convinced of Britain's selfishness, he clashed with Hamilton and TJ became an anti-Federalist, leading to birth of Republicans vs Democrats. he was an enemy of Jay's treaty which compromised along Hamilton's lines with Britian. TJ planned the Lewis and Clark expedition. When he retired his disciples were James Madison and James Monroe. Tod Moore notes a new book on Jefferson and Commercial Policy, Dixson 382.30973/84560. Probably Doron C. Ben-Atar, The Origin of Jeffersonian Commercial Policy and Diplomacy. Hampshire England. Macmillan. 1993. Nootka sound is pp. 122. fix! Robert Morris in index pp. 32, 77, 81ff. Rbt Morris in 1785-1786 re French Farmers-General, p. 81, prices down 50%. See notes on pp. 211-212, debts to British p. 213. Nootka p. 217, Barbary states p. 225, p. 237 Note 57 = VIP. See also Robert W. Love Jr., History of the US Navy. Harrisburg PA. Stackpole Books. 1994., re Rbt Morris sold the US Navy its first ship, named the Black Prince, renamed to Alfred, pp. 6 of Love earlier cited. A comparably important matter financially re Creditors' meet with Jefferson might be from T. B. Millar, Australia in Peace and War, p. 105, writing, "The American Civil War led to tension between London and Washington that found expression in Australia. Against the possibility of conflict, volunteer units were raised in Sydney, Melbourne and Newcastle. Australian sympathies tended to follow British: when a Confederate vessel, the Shenendoah, a former British ship, still with a part-British crew, visited Melbourne in January 1865, it was accorded a far more sympathetic welcome than proper neutrality would allow. The ship's later attacks on Union (United States) vessels led to a demand for compensation by Washington, which after arbitration cost the British government more than 15 million [pounds, altho the figure not mentioning dollars or pounds]." as in T. B. Millar, so see fix backcheck Alan Atkinson re other symboilic events with a money value attached, to make a collection of same, re assessment of importance or significance of DC-JEFF meet. See CH Philips on EICo, p. 156, Note 33 and look further into this, Cf., Furber, American Trade, New England Quarterly, June 1938, pp. 255-256, Jefferson's Embargo (nd but 1784-1794?) crippled the US East India trade. On Slavery see Dwight Lowell Dumond, Anti-Slavery: A Crusade for Freedom in America. Univ Michigan Press. 1961. see pp. 26ff re Declaration of Independence. has large biblio on slavery in US. On the questions of Rbt Morris and ships 1784ff to China and US relations to China see; Ernest R. May and James C. Thomson Jr, (Eds), American-East Asian Relations: A Survey. Cambridge, Mass. Harvard Univ Press. 1972 - {which is a farrago of common sense and a complete disgrace}; cf., Foster Rhea Dulles, The Old China Trade. Boston. Houghton Mifflin. 1930.; Kenneth Wiggins Porter, The Jacksons and the Lees: Two generations of Massachusetts Merchants, 1765-1844. Two Vols. Cambridge, Mass., Harvard Univ Press, 1937.; Charles C. Stelle, American Trade in Opium to China, prior to 1820., Pacific Historical Review, 9.4, Dec. 1940., pp. 425-444.; Jacques M. Downs, American Merchants and the China Opium Trade, 1800-1840., Business History Review, 42.4, Winter 1968., pp. 418-442.; William C. Appleton, A Cycle of Cathay: The Chinese Vogue in England During the Seventeenth and Eighteenth Centuries. New York. Columbia University Press. 1951.; US circa 1785, item, p. 20 of May of Thomson, Jefferson and Washington etc and their [appalling] ignorance of matters and people Chinese, p. 230 of May and Thomson.; before 1800, p. 24 of May and Thomson, the American opium trade at Smyrna. ; see May and Thomson, p. 26ff, Boston capitalists re Old China Trade, there was Thomas Handasyd Perkins of Boston visited Canton in 1798 and with his brother James set up the Boston firm of J. and H. T. Perkins in 1792; they had three nephews, William Sturgis, John Perkins Cushing and John Murray Forbes. J. R. Cushing (1787-1862) lived and traded in Canton and Macao from 1803, to 1828, and developed a close relationship with leading Hong merchant Houqua II (or, Wu Ping-chien, 1769-1843) investing large funds in international trade; see John Murray Forbes 1813-1898 who also lived in Canton 1830-1836 - Lord chief (?) in American opium trade, later involved in American railway business, to 1850, pp. 26-27 of May/Thomson, China trade for US mostly a Boston group but no news how this Boston group took it from associates of Robert Morris. For PAF, extensive lists of merchant names are in R. W. K. Hinton, The Eastland Trade and the Common Weal in the Seventeenth Century. CUP. 1959, merchant names 1624ff. See also Marion Balderston, James Claypoole's Letter Book, London and Philadelphia, 1681-1684. San Marino, Calif. Huntingdon Library. 1967, Claypoole a friend of William Penn. Other merchant names are in Kenneth Ballhatchet and John Harrison, East India Company Studies. (Papers presented to Prof Sir Cyril Philips). Asian Studies Monograph Series. Asian Research Service. Hong Kong. 1986. Cf on Baring, and Gouv. Morris, p. 89 of H. C. Allen, The Anglo-American Relationship since 1783. London. Adam and Charles Black. 1959. in Dixson Library VIP and also VIP is on Landon Carter and slavery, Leonie J. Archer (Ed), Slavery and other forms of Unfree Labour. New York. Routledge. 1988. VIP in Dixson library. Maybe some useful information in Burke's Commoners for which an inter-library loan might be required. Much of the American genealogy from 22-4-1994 comes from Stella Pickett Hardy, Colonial Families of the Southern States of America: A History and Genealogy of Colonial Families who settled in the Colonies prior to the Revolution. Ed 2, revised. Baltimore. Genealogical Publishing Co. 1968. [Hereafter, cited, Stella Hardy]. On Dict Am Biog, John Wayles Eppes see Va Mag of Hist and Biography, April 1826, pp. 396-397. I need urgently to look at tabular pedigree for Norfolk's re mysteries in GEC for Carlisle, p. 43. On earlier periods see as from GEC Complete Peerage, Vol. for Exeter, p. 216, Vol. 111, p. 566, note d, re notes on aristocrats, ditto Drumond's Noble British Families, Vols nd, Vol V, appendix E, and in there also Appendix H for lists of principal persons joining the Prince of Orange. Cf., Jamaica Library Service, PO Box 58, 2 Tom Redcam Drive, Kingston. 5. See in Dixson Ref centre, stats, Part 2 of Bicentennial Edn, Historical Statistics of the US, Colonial Times to 1970, US Dept of Commerce, Bureau of the Census, 1975, has stats on US tobacco exports from 1790ff. p. 897, Cf Reports of American Historical Assoc, P906.A.285. Cf., Dian H. Murray, Pirates of the South China Coast, 1790-1810., Standford, Calif. 1987. Editor, Va Magazine of History and Biography, PO Box 7311, Richmond, 23221. Virginia USA. Director, Va Historical Soc, PO Box 7311, Richmond 23221-0311, Virginia. Editor, William and Mary Quarterly, Box 220, Williamsburg VA 23187, Virginia. USA. For a list of peers in the Commanders of the Armies of the Commonwealth see GEC Cmplete Peerage Vol. IV, Appendix b. William III created nine dukedoms in six years. Cf, Viola F. Barnes, Dominion of New England. 1923. Re Edward Randolph. TJ first leaned French from Rev William Douglas, see Dict Am Biog entry on TJ, of whom TJ had a low opinion. See Rebecca Burwell qv whom TJ once loved. Re Barbary pirates, TJ and treaty with Morocco, TJ convinced only time would restrain the Barbary pirates, by 1788 TJ argued against the tobacco monopoly of the Farmers-General and attacked it. TJ's dr Martha married Thomas Mann Randolph. TJ's only children to survive were Martha and Maria/Mary. Because of Randolph in Bristol and TJ's descent from a Randolph RIN 4253 I need to establish there is no link between any such Randolphs re George Moore in 1783-1784 and his "near-international incident". See computer letter Atkin 49 and chronology file See also J. K. Hosmer, The History of the Louisiana Purchase. 1920.

In April 2001 arises newspaper report he is probably not fr of children by Sally Hemings, possibly his brother Randolph? The Sir John Sinclair he met in 1786 is now apparently identified. Note that in Claude G. Bowers The Young Jefferson, it is noted, p. 347 that when TJ went to Paris he went on ship Ceres (out of Boston?) Capt St Barbe, a ship owned by Mr Tracy who was aboard on the trip to Portsmouth, where TJ had a mild fever. There may be some odd matters on ship ownership re first US ships to Asia in Anthony Dickinson on Falklands Sealing Industry see notes to Shaw qv, Benjamin Hussey qv, On idea that US had awareness of plan to settle convicts or Loyalists at Australia per Shaw US consul at Canton see Norman Bartlett, Australa and America through 200 years, 1776-1976. Sydney. Ure Smith. 1976. p. 17. Why would America be unaware of what was in London newspapers? p. pp. 28-30, Bartlett says that British EICo ruined British efforts at Nootka Sound, so left it to US ships. Re Ledyard, pp. 12ff. Cf., Lewis Namier, (641.07), England in the Age of the American Revolution. London. Macmillan. Ed 2. 1961. has merchant names VIP. eg Drax p. 366. Cf,
Curtis P. Nettels, Money Supply of American Colonies before 1720. A. M. Kelley. Clifton, USA. 1973. 332.4973. Note that General John Minor qv was present at the surrender of Cornwallis in 1781. Note that when TJ talks with Sir John Sinclair, Sinclair is a highly motivated agricultural improver. ie, agrarianism is TJ's agenda. Cf., V. G. Setser, The Commercial Reciprocity Policy of the United States, 1774-1829. Philadelphia, 1937, cited in Holden Furber on beginnings of US-India trade, p. 246, Note 22., and also see Furber here on Jay's treaty. How much can be granted to Ritcheson in Loyalist Influence p. 3 where he says that the diplomatic efforts in London of John Adams, Jefferson, in 1786, and Gouveneur Morris in 1790, that Tory Loyalists had worked against them from motives of losses and disappointments, as well as Loyalist support for the British moves in [Canada] such as fortification of the Canadian border, construction of a Great Lakes fleet, intrigue amongst Indians, retention of posts in the Old Northwest ceded by US to the treaty of Peace? as these are listed by Ritcheson p. 3. It was John Dickinson qv who made an alarm about EICo and Bengal famine. AM Schlesinger in Colonial Merchants p. 59 cites John Adams as franker than nmost when he wrote, "I know not why we should blush to confess that molassses was an essential ingredient in American independence."; and on p. 39 he has, Note 1, cites Oliver Wolcott writing, "It is a firmly established opinion of men well-versed in the history of our revolution, that the whiggism of Virginia was chiefly owing to the debts of the planters.", citing Note 1, British influence on the Affairs of the United States Proved and Explained, Boston. 1804., quoted by C. A. Beard, Economic Origins of Jeffersonian Democracy. New York. 1915. pp. 297-298. Schlesinger p. 39 Note 1 writes, "It will be recalled that the question of payment of the pre-Revolutionary pruvate debts to British merchants occupied the attention of the British and American governments in the treaties of 1783 and 1794 and in the convention of 1802. The claims presented against the commercial provinces amounted to £218,000, those against the plantation provinces, 3,869,000. The former figure consisted, in large part, of claims on behalf of American loyalists for compensation, while this is not true in the latter case. See Gray and Wykoff, The International Tobacco Trade in the Seventeenth Century, Southern Economic Journal. VII, 1940-1941., pp. 1-26.; Louis B. Wright, The First Gentlemen of Virginia: Intellectual Qualities of the Early Colonial Ruling Class. San Marino, Calif. 1940.; cf Michael Hall, Edmund Randolph and the American Colonies.; Manfred Jonas, The Claiborne-Calvert Controversy: An Episode in the Colonization of North America, Jahrbuch fur Amerikaastudien, XI, 1966, pp. 241-250.; Richard Beale Davis, (Ed), William Fitzhugh and His Chesapeake World, 1676-1701: The Fitzhugh Letters and other Documents. Chapel Hill, NC, 1963.; S. G. Culliford, William Strachey, 1572-1621. Charlottesville. Va. 1965.; give to Tod Moore, > John C. Rainbolt, A New Look at Stuart 'Tyranny': The Crown's Attack on the Virginia Assembly, 1676-1689, VMHB, LXXV, 1967. pp. 387-406.; John D. Krugler, Sir George Calvert's Resignation as Secretary of State and the Founding of Maryland. Maryland Hist Mag, LXVIII, 1973., pp. 239-254.; p. 55 in an essay James Horn, Servant Emigration to the Chesapeake in the Seventeenth Century, pp. 51ff of Tate and Ammerman, p. 55, > first ordnance passed by Brit Parlt to prevent kidnapping in 1645, ten years later Bristol passed its own legislation requiring all servants to be registered before transportation, hence the Bristol lists of indentured servants going out and in London the Lord Mayor's Waiting Books at the Guildhall. Yet the spiriting away of people did continue.; Horn's essay p. 65, Note 42, mentions His Majesties charter to the Lord Baltimore, translated into English, London, 1635.; Cf Susan Myra Kingsbury, (Ed), The Records of the Virginia Company of London. ... Washington DC. 1906-1935. III, p. 266 etc.; check issues of the Genealogists Magazine. Horn p. 75 on servant emigration notes from Peter Bowden, "the third, fourth and fifth decades of the seventeenth century witnessed extreme hardship in England, and were probably among the most terrible years through which the country has ever passed. It is probably no coincidence
that the first real beginnings of colonization of America date from this period."; B. E. Supple, Commercial Crisis and Change in England, 1600-1642: a study in the instability of a Mercantile Economy. Cambridge. 1959.; David
Underdown, Somerset in the Civil War and Interregnum. Newton Abbot. 1973.; James Horn in Tate and Ammerman, p. 87, > a remarkable number of individuals involved in servant trade and great diversity in their backgrounds. Over a thousand masters transported servants to America from Bristol between 1654 and 1660, of whom 400 traded with Virginia and Maryland. about a third of
Chesapeake masters described themselves as mariners, a fifth were merchants, about 10 per cent were planters. the trade in servants not monopolized by a minority of wealthy merchants as has been thought. whole trading communities were involved. ; cf Wilcomb E. Washburn, Virginia under Charles I and Cromwell, 1625-1660. Williamsburg Va. 1957.; James Horn p. 90, Note 110, between 1606 and 1660, 1304 merchants engaged in trade with Virginia from London and outports, of these only 81.4 per cent had only one voyage.; James Horn pp. 92-93, in Bristol circa 1650, Valentine Price and Edward Lapselly of Bristol engaged with Nicholas Dangerfield of St Christopher to supply 20 men/boy servants".; for records on how servants were recruited in London for America from 1750 see William Eddis, Letters from America, Ed, Aubrey C. Land. Cambridge Mass, 1969. Richard S. Dunn, Puritans and Yankees: The Winthrop Dynasty of New England, 1630-1717. Princeton NJ., 1962.,; on politics see Jackston T. Main, The One Hundred. WM Qtly, Series 3, XI, 1954., pp. 354-384. Robert and B. Katherine Brown, Virginia 1705-1786: Democracy or Aristocracy? East Lansing, Mich. 1964. VIP.; R. A. Brock, Ed., The Official Letters of Alexander Spotswood, Lt-Gov of the Colony of Virginia, 1710-1722. Virginia Hist Soc, Collections, NS, I-II, Richmond Va 1882-1885.; Aubrey C. Land, The Dulanys of Maryland: a Biographical Study of Daniel Dulany, the Elder, 1685-1753 and Daniel Dulany the Younger, 1722-1797. Baltimore. 1955.; cf David Alan Williams, Anglo-Virginia Politics, 1690-1735, in Alison Olson and Richard Maxwell Brown, (Eds), Anglo-American Political Relations, 1675-1775. New Brunswick NJ. 1970.; Titles << are from Thad W. Tate and David L. Ammerman, (Eds), [per Alan Atkinson], The Chesapeake in the Seventeenth Century: Essays on Anglo-American Society. New York. Norton. 1979. Note re citation on Banks from Nexus Magazine of Feb-March 1994, from title Richard Kelly Hoskins, War Cycles - Peace Cycles, Virginia Publishing Co, PO Box 997, Lynchburg Va 24505 USA. nd < Notes Jefferson born Shadwell, Goochland Co, Va, (Albemarle), in 1762 graduated from W&M College, in 1774 had view Parlt had no authority in colonies, only bond being allegiance to the King an enemy of aristocracy (ie, against rule of primogeniture), in 1779 TJ became Gov of Va, drafted governance of the N/w territory. Events in 1786 left him convinced of Britain's selfishness, he clashed with Hamilton and TJ became an anti-Federalist, leading to birth of Republicans vs Democrats. he was an enemy of Jay's treaty which compromised along Hamilton's lines with Britian. TJ planned the Lewis and Clark expedition. When he retired his disciples were James Madison and James Monroe. Tod Moore notes a new book on Jefferson and Commercial Policy, Dixson 382.30973/84560. Probably Doron C. Ben-Atar, The Origin of Jeffersonian Commercial Policy and Diplomacy. Hampshire England. Macmillan. 1993. Nootka sound is pp. 122. fix! Robert Morris in index pp. 32, 77, 81ff. Rbt Morris in 1785-1786 re French Farmers-General, p. 81, prices down 50%. See notes on pp. 211-212, debts to British p. 213. Nootka p. 217, Barbary states p. 225, p. 237 Note 57 = VIP. See also Robert W. Love Jr., History of the US Navy. Harrisburg PA. Stackpole Books. 1994., re Rbt Morris sold the US Navy its first ship, named the Black Prince, renamed to Alfred, pp. 6 of Love earlier cited. A comparably important matter financially re Creditors' meet with Jefferson might be from T. B. Millar, Australia in Peace and War, p. 105, writing, "The American Civil War led to tension between London and Washington that found expression in Australia. Against the possibility of conflict, volunteer units were raised in Sydney, Melbourne and Newcastle. Australian sympathies tended to follow British: when a Confederate vessel, the Shenendoah, a former British ship, still with a part-British crew, visited Melbourne in January 1865, it was accorded a far more sympathetic welcome than proper neutrality would allow. The ship's later attacks on Union (United States) vessels led to a demand for compensation by Washington, which after arbitration cost the British government more than 15 million [pounds, altho the figure not mentioning dollars or pounds]." as in T. B. Millar, so see fix backcheck Alan Atkinson re other symboilic events with a money value attached, to make a collection of same, re assessment of importance or significance of DC-JEFF meet. See CH Philips on EICo, p. 156, Note 33 and look further into this, Cf., Furber, American Trade, New England Quarterly, June 1938, pp. 255-256, Jefferson's Embargo (nd but 1784-1794?) crippled the US East India trade. On Slavery see Dwight Lowell Dumond, Anti-Slavery: A Crusade for Freedom in America. Univ Michigan Press. 1961. see pp. 26ff re Declaration of Independence. has large biblio on slavery in US. On the questions of Rbt Morris and ships 1784ff to China and US relations to China see; Ernest R. May and James C. Thomson Jr, (Eds), American-East Asian Relations: A Survey. Cambridge, Mass. Harvard Univ Press. 1972 - {which is a farrago of common sense and a complete disgrace}; cf., Foster Rhea Dulles, The Old China Trade. Boston. Houghton Mifflin. 1930.; Kenneth Wiggins Porter, The Jacksons and the Lees: Two generations of Massachusetts Merchants, 1765-1844. Two Vols. Cambridge, Mass., Harvard Univ Press, 1937.; Charles C. Stelle, American Trade in Opium to China, prior to 1820., Pacific Historical Review, 9.4, Dec. 1940., pp. 425-444.; Jacques M. Downs, American Merchants and the China Opium Trade, 1800-1840., Business History Review, 42.4, Winter 1968., pp. 418-442.; William C. Appleton, A Cycle of Cathay: The Chinese Vogue in England During the Seventeenth and Eighteenth Centuries. New York. Columbia University Press. 1951.; US circa 1785, item, p. 20 of May of Thomson, Jefferson and Washington etc and their [appalling] ignorance of matters and people Chinese, p. 230 of May and Thomson.; before 1800, p. 24 of May and Thomson, the American opium trade at Smyrna. ; see May and Thomson, p. 26ff, Boston capitalists re Old China Trade, there was Thomas Handasyd Perkins of Boston visited Canton in 1798 and with his brother James set up the Boston firm of J. and H. T. Perkins in 1792; they had three nephews, William Sturgis, John Perkins Cushing and John Murray Forbes. J. R. Cushing (1787-1862) lived and traded in Canton and Macao from 1803, to 1828, and developed a close relationship with leading Hong merchant Houqua II (or, Wu Ping-chien, 1769-1843) investing large funds in international trade; see John Murray Forbes 1813-1898 who also lived in Canton 1830-1836 - Lord chief (?) in American opium trade, later involved in American railway business, to 1850, pp. 26-27 of May/Thomson, China trade for US mostly a Boston group but no news how this Boston group took it from associates of Robert Morris. For genealogy, extensive lists of merchant names are in R. W. K. Hinton, The Eastland Trade and the Common Weal in the Seventeenth Century. CUP. 1959, merchant names 1624ff. See also Marion Balderston, James Claypoole's Letter Book, London and Philadelphia, 1681-1684. San Marino, Calif. Huntingdon Library. 1967, Claypoole a friend of William Penn. Other merchant names are in Kenneth Ballhatchet and John Harrison, East India Company Studies. (Papers presented to Prof Sir Cyril Philips). Asian Studies Monograph Series. Asian Research Service. Hong Kong. 1986. Cf on Baring, and Gouv. Morris, p. 89 of H. C. Allen, The Anglo-American Relationship since 1783. London. Adam and Charles Black. 1959. in Dixson Library VIP and also VIP is on Landon Carter and slavery, Leonie J. Archer (Ed), Slavery and other forms of Unfree Labour. New York. Routledge. 1988. VIP in Dixson library. Maybe some useful information in Burke's Commoners for which an inter-library loan might be required. Much of the American genealogy from 22-4-1994 comes from Stella Pickett Hardy, Colonial Families of the Southern States of America: A History and Genealogy of Colonial Families who settled in the Colonies prior to the Revolution. Ed 2, revised. Baltimore. Genealogical Publishing Co. 1968. [Hereafter, cited, Stella Hardy]. On Dictionary Am Biog, John Wayles Eppes see Va Mag of Hist and Biography, April 1826, pp. 396-397. I need urgently to look at tabular pedigree for Norfolk's re mysteries in GEC for Carlisle, p. 43. On earlier periods see as from GEC Complete Peerage, Vol. for Exeter, p. 216, Vol. 111, p. 566, note d, re notes on aristocrats, ditto Drumond's Noble British Families, Vols nd, Vol V, appendix E, and in there also Appendix H for lists of principal persons joining the Prince of Orange. Cf., Jamaica Library Service, PO Box 58, 2 Tom Redcam Drive, Kingston. 5. See in Dixson Ref centre, stats, Part 2 of Bicentennial Edn, Historical Statistics of the US, Colonial Times to 1970, US Dept of Commerce, Bureau of the Census, 1975, has stats on US tobacco exports from 1790ff. p. 897, Cf Reports of American Historical Assoc, P906.A.285. Cf., Dian H. Murray, Pirates of the South China Coast, 1790-1810., Standford, Calif. 1987. Editor, Va Magazine of History and Biography, PO Box 7311, Richmond, 23221. Virginia USA. Director, Va Historical Soc, PO Box 7311, Richmond 23221-0311, Virginia. Editor, William and Mary Quarterly, Box 220, Williamsburg VA 23187, Virginia. USA. For a list of peers in the Commanders of the Armies of the Commonwealth see GEC Complete Peerage Vol. IV, Appendix b. William III created nine dukedoms in six years. Cf, Viola F. Barnes, Dominion of New England. 1923. Re Edward Randolph. TJ first leaned French from Rev William Douglas, see Dict Am Biog entry on TJ, of whom TJ had a low opinion. See Rebecca Burwell qv whom TJ once loved. Re Barbary pirates, TJ and treaty with Morocco, TJ convinced only time would restrain the Barbary pirates, by 1788 TJ argued against the tobacco monopoly of the Farmers-General and attacked it. TJ's dr Martha married Thomas Mann Randolph. TJ's only children to survive were Martha and Maria/Mary. Because of Randolph in Bristol and TJ's descent from a Randolph RIN 4253 I need to establish there is no link between any such Randolphs re George Moore in 1783-1784 and his "near-international incident". See computer letter Atkin 49 and chronology file for 1784 re Robt morris and the first US China ship, Empress of India.

The Sir John Sinclair he met in 1786 is now apparently identified. Note that in Claude G. Bowers The Young Jefferson, it is noted, p. 347 that when TJ went to Paris he went on ship Ceres (out of Boston?) Capt St Barbe, a ship owned by Mr Tracy who was aboard on the trip to Portsmouth, where TJ had a mild fever. There may be some odd matters on ship ownership re first US ships
to Asia in Anthony Dickinson on Falklands Sealing Industry see notes to Shaw qv, Benjamin Hussey qv, On idea that US had awareness of plan to settle convicts or Loyalists at Australia per Shaw US consul at Canton see Norman Bartlett, Australa and
America through 200 years, 1776-1976. Sydney. Ure Smith. 1976. p. 17. Why would America be unaware of what was in London newspapers? p. pp. 28-30, Bartlett says that British EICo ruined British efforts at Nootka Sound, so left it to US ships. Re Ledyard, pp. 12ff. Cf., Lewis Namier, (641.07), England in the Age of the American Revolution. London. Macmillan. Ed 2. 1961. has merchant names VIP. eg Drax p. 366. Cf, Curtis P. Nettels, Money Supply of American Colonies before 1720. A. M. Kelley. Clifton, USA. 1973. 332.4973. Note that General John Minor qv was present at the surrender of Cornwallis in 1781. Note that when TJ talks with Sir John Sinclair, Sinclair is a highly motivated agricultural improver. ie, agrarianism is TJ's agenda. Cf., V. G. Setser, The Commercial Reciprocity Policy of the United States, 1774-1829. Philadelphia, 1937, cited in Holden Furber on beginnings of US-India trade, p. 246, Note 22., and also see Furber here on Jay's treaty. How much can be granted to Ritcheson in Loyalist Influence p. 3 where he says that the diplomatic efforts in London of John Adams, Jefferson, in 1786, and Gouveneur Morris in 1790, that Tory Loyalists had worked against them from motives of losses and disappointments, as well as Loyalist support for the British moves in [Canada] such as fortification of the Canadian border, construction of a Great Lakes fleet, intrigue amongst Indians, retention of posts in the Old Northwest ceded by US to the treaty of Peace? as these are listed by Ritcheson p. 3. It was John Dickinson qv who made an alarm about EICo and Bengal famine. AM Schlesinger in Colonial Merchants p. 59 cites John Adams as franker than most when he wrote, "I know not why we should blush to confess that molassses was an essential ingredient in American independence."; and on p. 39 he has, Note 1, cites Oliver Wolcott writing, "It is a firmly established opinion of men well-versed in the history of our revolution, that the whiggism of Virginia was chiefly owing to the debts of the planters.", citing Note 1, British influence on the Affairs of the United States Proved and Explained, Boston. 1804., quoted by C. A. Beard, Economic Origins of Jeffersonian Democracy. New York. 1915. pp. 297-298. Schlesinger p. 39 Note 1 writes, "It will be recalled that the question of payment of the pre-Revolutionary private debts to British merchants occupied the attention of the British and American governments in the treaties of 1783 and 1794 and in the convention of 1802. The claims presented against the commercial provinces amounted to £218,000, those against the plantation provinces, 3,869,000. The former figure consisted, in large part, of claims on behalf of American loyalists for compensation, while this is not true in the latter case. See Gray and Wykoff, The International Tobacco Trade in the Seventeenth Century, Southern Economic Journal. VII, 1940-1941., pp. 1-26.; Louis B. Wright, The First Gentlemen of Virginia: Intellectual Qualities of the Early Colonial Ruling Class. San Marino, Calif. 1940.; cf Michael Hall, Edmund Randolph and the American Colonies.; Manfred Jonas, The Claiborne-Calvert Controversy: An Episode in the Colonization of North America, Jahrbuch fur Amerikaastudien, XI, 1966, pp. 241-250.; Richard Beale Davis, (Ed), William Fitzhugh and His Chesapeake World, 1676-1701: The Fitzhugh Letters and other Documents. Chapel Hill, NC, 1963.; S. G. Culliford, William Strachey, 1572-1621. Charlottesville. Va. 1965.; John C. Rainbolt, A New Look at Stuart 'Tyranny': The Crown's Attack on the Virginia Assembly, 1676-1689, VMHB, LXXV, 1967. pp. 387-406.; John D. Krugler, Sir George Calvert's Resignation as Secretary of State and the Founding of Maryland. Maryland Hist Mag, LXVIII, 1973., pp. 239-254.; p. 55 in an essay James Horn, Servant Emigration to the Chesapeake in the Seventeenth Century, pp. 51ff of Tate and Ammerman, p. 55, > first ordnance passed by Brit Parlt to prevent kidnapping in 1645, ten years later Bristol passed its own legislation requiring all servants to be registered before transportation, hence the Bristol lists of indentured servants going out and in London the Lord Mayor's Waiting Books at the Guildhall. Yet the spiriting away of people did continue.; Horn's essay p. 65, Note 42, mentions His Majesties charter to the Lord Baltimore, translated into English, London, 1635.; Cf Susan Myra Kingsbury, (Ed), The Records of the Virginia Company of London. ... Washington DC. 1906-1935. III, p. 266 etc.; check issues of the Genealogists Magazine. Horn p. 75 on servant emigration notes from Peter Bowden, "the third, fourth and fifth decades of the seventeenth century witnessed extreme hardship in England, and were probably among the most terrible years through which the country has ever passed. It is probably no coincidence that the first real beginnings of colonization of America date from this period."; B. E. Supple, Commercial Crisis and Change in England, 1600-1642: a study in the instability of a Mercantile Economy. Cambridge. 1959.; David Underdown, Somerset in the Civil War and Interregnum. Newton Abbot. 1973.; James Horn in Tate and Ammerman, p. 87, > a remarkable number of individuals involved in servant trade and great diversity in their backgrounds. Over a thousand masters transported servants to America from Bristol between 1654 and 1660, of whom 400 traded with Virginia and Maryland. about a third of Chesapeake masters described themselves as mariners, a fifth were merchants, about 10 per cent were planters. the trade in servants not monopolized by a minority of wealthy merchants as has been thought. whole trading communities were involved. ; cf Wilcomb E. Washburn, Virginia under Charles I and Cromwell, 1625-1660. Williamsburg Va. 1957.; James Horn p. 90, Note 110, between 1606 and 1660, 1304 merchants engaged in trade with Virginia from London and outports, of these only 81.4 per cent had only one voyage.; James Horn pp. 92-93, in Bristol circa 1650, Valentine Price and Edward Lapselly of Bristol engaged with Nicholas Dangerfield of St Christopher to supply 20 men/boy servants".; for records on how servants were recruited in London for America from 1750 see William Eddis, Letters from America, Ed, Aubrey C. Land. Cambridge Mass, 1969. Richard S. Dunn, Puritans and Yankees: The Winthrop Dynasty of New England, 1630-1717. Princeton NJ., 1962.,; on politics see Jackston T. Main, The One Hundred. WM Qtly, Series 3, XI, 1954., pp. 354-384. Robert and B. Katherine Brown, Virginia 1705-1786: Democracy or Aristocracy? East Lansing, Mich. 1964. VIP.; R. A. Brock, Ed., The Official Letters of Alexander Spotswood, Lt-Gov of the Colony of Virginia, 1710-1722. Virginia Hist Soc, Collections, NS, I-II, Richmond Va 1882-1885.; Aubrey C. Land, The Dulanys of Maryland: a Biographical Study of Daniel Dulany, the Elder, 1685-1753 and Daniel Dulany the Younger, 1722-1797. Baltimore. 1955.; cf David Alan Williams, Anglo-Virginia Politics, 1690-1735, in Alison Olson and Richard Maxwell Brown, (Eds), Anglo-American Political Relations, 1675-1775. New Brunswick NJ. 1970.; Titles << are from Thad W. Tate and David L. Ammerman, (Eds), [per Alan Atkinson], The Chesapeake in the Seventeenth Century: Essays on Anglo-American Society. New York. Norton. 1979. Note re citation on Banks from Nexus Magazine of Feb-March 1994, from title Richard Kelly Hoskins, War Cycles - Peace Cycles, Virginia Publishing Co, PO Box 997, Lynchburg Va 24505 USA. nd < Notes Jefferson born Shadwell, Goochland Co, Va, (Albemarle), in 1762 graduated from W&M College, in 1774 had view Parlt had no authority in colonies, only bond being allegiance to the King an enemy of aristocracy (ie, against rule of primogeniture), in 1779 TJ became Gov of Va, drafted governance of the N/w territory. Events in 1786 left him convinced of Britain's selfishness, he clashed with Hamilton and TJ became an anti-Federalist, leading to birth of Republicans vs Democrats. he was an enemy of Jay's treaty which compromised along Hamilton's lines with Britian. TJ planned the Lewis and Clark expedition. When he retired his disciples were James Madison and James Monroe. Tod Moore notes a new book on Jefferson and Commercial Policy, Dixson 382.30973/84560. Probably Doron C. Ben-Atar, The Origin of Jeffersonian Commercial Policy and Diplomacy. Hampshire England. Macmillan. 1993. Nootka sound is pp. 122. fix! Robert Morris in index pp. 32, 77, 81ff. Rbt Morris in 1785-1786 re French Farmers-General, p. 81, prices down 50%. See notes on pp. 211-212, debts to British p. 213. Nootka p. 217, Barbary states p. 225, p. 237 Note 57 = VIP. See also Robert W. Love Jr., History of the US Navy. Harrisburg PA. Stackpole Books. 1994., re Rbt Morris sold the US Navy its first ship, named the Black Prince, renamed to Alfred, pp. 6 of Love earlier cited. A comparably important matter financially re Creditors' meet with Jefferson might be from T. B. Millar, Australia in Peace and War, p. 105, writing, "The American Civil War led to tension between London and Washington that found expression in Australia. Against the possibility of conflict, volunteer units were raised in Sydney, Melbourne and Newcastle. Australian sympathies tended to follow British: when a Confederate vessel, the Shenendoah, a former British ship, still with a part-British crew, visited Melbourne in January 1865, it was accorded a far more sympathetic welcome than proper neutrality would allow. The ship's later attacks on Union (United States) vessels led to a demand for compensation by Washington, which after arbitration cost the British government more than 15 million [pounds, altho the figure not mentioning dollars or pounds]." as in T. B. Millar, so see re other symbolic events with a money value attached, to make a collection of same, re assessment of importance or significance of DC-JEFF meet. See CH Philips on EICo, p. 156, Note 33 and look further into this, Cf., Furber, American Trade, New England Quarterly, June 1938, pp. 255-256, Jefferson's Embargo (nd but 1784-1794?) crippled the US East India trade. On Slavery see Dwight Lowell Dumond, Anti-Slavery: A Crusade for Freedom in America. Univ Michigan Press. 1961. see pp. 26ff re Declaration of Independence. has large biblio on slavery in US. On the questions of Rbt Morris and ships 1784ff to China and US relations to China see; Ernest R. May and James C. Thomson Jr, (Eds), American-East Asian Relations: A Survey. Cambridge, Mass. Harvard Univ Press. 1972 - {which is a farrago of common sense and a complete disgrace}; cf., Foster Rhea Dulles, The Old China Trade. Boston. Houghton Mifflin. 1930.; Kenneth Wiggins Porter, The Jacksons and the Lees: Two generations of Massachusetts Merchants, 1765-1844. Two Vols. Cambridge, Mass., Harvard Univ Press, 1937.; Charles C. Stelle, American Trade in Opium to China, prior to 1820., Pacific Historical Review, 9.4, Dec. 1940., pp. 425-444.; Jacques M. Downs, American Merchants and the China Opium Trade, 1800 -1840., Business History Review, 42.4, Winter 1968., pp. 418-442.; William C. Appleton, A Cycle of Cathay: The Chinese Vogue in England During the Seventeenth and Eighteenth Centuries. New York. Columbia UNiv Press. 1951.; US circa 1785, item, p. 20 of May of Thomson, Jefferson and Washington etc and their [appalling] ignorance of matters and people Chinese, p. 230 of May and Thomson.; before 1800, p. 24 of May and Thomson, the American opium trade at Smyrna. ; see May and Thomson, p. 26ff, Boston capitalists re Old China Trade, there was Thomas Handasyd Perkins of Boston visited Canton in 1798 and with his brother James set up the Boston firm of J. and H. T. Perkins in 1792; they had three nephews, William Sturgis, John Perkins Cushing and John Murray Forbes. J. R. Cushing (1787-1862) lived and traded in Canton and Macao from 1803, to 1828, and developed a close relationship with leading Hong merchant Houqua II (or, Wu Ping-chien, 1769-1843) investing large funds in international trade; see John Murray Forbes 1813-1898 who also lived in Canton 1830-1836 - Lord chief (?) in American opium trade, later involved in American railway business, to 1850, pp. 26-27 of May/Thomson, China trade for US mostly a Boston group but no news how this Boston group took it from associates of Robert Morris. For genealogy, extensive lists of merchant names are in R. W. K. Hinton, The Eastland Trade and the Common Weal in the Seventeenth Century. CUP. 1959, merchant names 1624ff. See also Marion Balderston, James Claypoole's Letter Book, London and Philadelphia, 1681-1684. San Marino, Calif. Huntingdon Library. 1967, Claypoole a friend of William Penn. Other merchant names are in Kenneth Ballhatchet and John Harrison, East India Company Studies. (Papers presented to Prof Sir Cyril Philips). Asian Studies Monograph Series. Asian Research Service. Hong Kong. 1986. Cf on Baring, and Gouv. Morris, p. 89 of H. C. Allen, The Anglo-American Relationship since 1783. London. Adam and Charles Black. 1959. in Dixson Library VIP and also VIP is on Landon Carter and slavery, Leonie J. Archer (Ed), Slavery and other forms of Unfree Labour. New York. Routledge. 1988. VIP in Dixson library. Maybe some useful information in Burke's Commoners for which an inter-library loan might be requi red. Much of the American genealogy from 22-4-1994 comes from Stella Pickett Hardy, Colonial Families of the Southern States of America: A History and Genealogy of Colonial Families who settled in the Colonies prior to the Revolution. Ed 2, revised. Baltimore. Genealogical Publishing Co. 1968. [Hereafter, cited, Stella Hardy]. On Dictionary Am Biog, John Wayles Eppes see Va Mag of Hist and Biography, April 1826, pp. 396-397. I need urgently to look at tabular pedigree for Norfolk's re mysteries in GEC for Carlisle, p. 43. On earlier periods see as from GEC Complete Peerage, Vol. for Exeter, p. 216, Vol. 111, p. 566, note d, re notes on aristocrats, ditto Drumond's Noble British Families, Vols nd, Vol V, appendix E, and in there also Appendix H for lists of principal persons joining the Prince of Orange. Cf., Jamaica Library Service, PO Box 58, 2 Tom Redcam Drive, Kingston. 5. See in Dixson Ref centre, stats, Part 2 of Bicentennial Edn, Historical Statistics of the US, Colonial Times to 1970, US Dept of Commerce, Bureau of the Census, 1975, has stats on US tobacco exports from 1790ff. p. 897, Cf Reports of American Historical Assoc, P906.A.285. Cf., Dian H. Murray, Pirates of the South China Coast, 1790-1810., Standford, Calif. 1987. Editor, Va Magazine of History and Biography, PO Box 7311, Richmond, 23221. Virginia USA. Director, Va Historical Soc, PO Box 7311, Richmond 23221-0311, Virginia. Editor, William and Mary Quarterly, Box 220, Williamsburg VA 23187, Virginia. USA. For a list of peers in the Commanders of the Armies of the Commonwealth see GEC, Complete Peerage Vol. IV, Appendix b. William III created nine dukedoms in six years. Cf, Viola F. Barnes, Dominion of New England. 1923. Re Edward Randolph. TJ first leaned French from Rev William Douglas, see Dict Am Biog entry on TJ, of whom TJ had a low opinion. See Rebecca Burwell qv whom TJ once loved. Re Barbary pirates, TJ and treaty with Morocco, TJ was convinced only time would restrain the Barbary pirates, by 1788 TJ argued against the tobacco monopoly of the Farmers-General and attacked it. On TJ's dr Martha married Thomas Mann Randolph. TJ's only children to survive were Martha and Maria/Mary. Because of Randolph in Bristol and TJ's descent from a Randolph RIN 4253 I need to establish there is no link between any such Randolphs re George Moore in 1783-1784 and his "near-international incident". See computer letter Atkin 49 and chronology file for 1784 re Robt Morris and the first US China ship, Empress of India. Jerfferson. Signer gapskey

Thomas married (1) Hemings Sally-7769 daughter of Planter, City Co Wayles John Charles-66990 and Slave Hemings Betty-15958 in Aug 1787 in Paris,France. Sally was born in 1773. She died in 1835.

See movie, Jefferson in Paris. See Obituary, SMH, weekend, 2-3 Ayugust 2008 of Eugene Foster (1927-2008) pathologist who worked on DNA of Jefferson's alleged children by Sally Hemings, the half-sister of Jefferson's wife white Martha. Jefferson was first accused of having children by Hemings in 1802 the second year of his first term, in article in The Richmond Recorder. Jefferson's family later suggested any resemblances were explained by Jefferson's nephews, Peter and Samuel Carr. First major book on the story was by Annnette Gordon-Reed, Thomas Jefferson and Sally Hemings: An American Controversy. Jefferson had an uncle, Field Jefferson. Jefferson from records was present at Monticello each time Sally H conceived a child.

Thomas and Sally had the following children:

+ 41 M i Hemings "Tom"-15963.
  42 F ii Jefferson Harriett II-244603 was born in 1801. She died in 1797.

She is said to have married a man in Washington after running away.
  43 F iii Jefferson Beverley-244604 was born in 1798.
  44 F iv Jefferson Theria-244605 died in 1799.
  45 M v Jefferson Madison-244607 was born in 1805.
+ 46 M vi Jefferson Eston Hemings-244608 was born in 1808.

Thomas married (2) Wayles Martha Patty (widow Skelton)-66910 daughter of Planter, City Co Wayles John Charles-66990 and Eppes Martha-3972. Martha was born in 1748. She died in 1782.

gapskey re her husband Jefferson.

Thomas and Martha had the following children:

+ 47 F vii Jefferson Martha (Patsy)-3969.
  48 F viii Jefferson Mary (Polly)-3970.
+ 49 F ix Jefferson Maria-4215.

35. Jefferson Martha-20533 (Peter (Surveyor) Virginia Planter , Thomas II , Thomas Snr , John , Progenitor ) was born in 1746. She died in 1811.

Martha married Carr Dabney Sr-244545 son of Colonel Carr John-244546 and CNotknown Mss-244547. Dabney was born in 1743. He died in 1773.

They had the following children:

+ 50 F i Carr Jane Margaret-398927.

36. Jefferson Mary or Martha-20534 (Peter (Surveyor) Virginia Planter , Thomas II , Thomas Snr , John , Progenitor ).

Item per compiler James Hallowell Holcombe Jnr., of Atlanta, Georgia, at website http://www.holcombegenealogy.com/ accessed 3 September 2007.

Mary married Bolling John III-85951 son of Major Bolling John Jnr-275079 and Blair Elizabeth Bland-306598. John was born in 1737. He died in 1822.

Item per compiler James Hallowell Holcombe Jnr., of Atlanta, Georgia, at website http://www.holcombegenealogy.com/ accessed 3 September 2007.

John and Mary had the following children:

+ 51 M i Bolling Archibald Snr-349266 was born in 1769.
  52 F ii Bolling Martha-439693.
        Martha married Archer Field-439702 son of Archer Progenitor-303326 and ANotknown Miss-304755.
  53 M iii Bolling John-439694.
        John married Kennon Miss-439701 daughter of Kennon Progenitor-304756 and KNotknown Miss-303327.
  54 M iv Bolling Edward-439695.
        Edward married Payne Dolly-439700 daughter of Payne Progenitor-439836 and PNotknown Miss-439422.
+ 55 F v Bolling Mary-439696 was born about 1770.
  56 M vi Bolling Robert-439697.
        Robert married Payne Jane-439698 daughter of Payne Progenitor-304685 and PNotknown Miss-304686.

38. Jefferson Randolph-244590 (Peter (Surveyor) Virginia Planter , Thomas II , Thomas Snr , John , Progenitor ).

New in May 2005 from http on Jefferson-Hemings problem.

Randolph married Lewis Ann-244591 daughter of Of Buck Island Lewis Charles Jnr-244597 and Randolph Mary-244598 on 30 Jul 1781.

They had the following children:

  57 M i Jefferson Peter Field-244592.
        Peter married JNotknown Miss-244599.
  58 M ii Jefferson Thomas Junior-244593.
        Thomas married Lewis Mary R.-466700 daughter of Of Monteagle Lewis Charles Lilburne-466690 and Jefferson Lucy-370413 in 1803.
  59 M iii Jefferson Isham Randolph-244594.
        Isham married JNotknown Miss-244601 in 1813.
  60 M iv Jefferson Robert Lewis-244595.
        Robert married JNotknown Miss-244602 in 1828.
  61 M v Jefferson James Lilburne-244596.

39. Jefferson Lucy-370413 (Peter (Surveyor) Virginia Planter , Thomas II , Thomas Snr , John , Progenitor ) was born in 1752 in Virginia. She died in 1784.

Sam Sloane's Big Combined Family Trees website.

Lucy married Of Monteagle Lewis Charles Lilburne-466690 son of Of Buck Island Lewis Charles Jnr-244597 and Randolph Mary-244598. Charles was born in 1747/1752 in Va.

They had the following children:

+ 62 F i Lewis Jane Jefferson-370414 was born in 1777. She died in 1822.
  63 F ii Lewis Martha Ann Cary-466698.
        Martha married Monroe Daniel-466699 son of Monroe Progenitor-509805 and MNotknown Miss-509806.
  64 F iii Lewis Mary R.-466700.
        Mary married Jefferson Thomas Junior-244593 son of Jefferson Randolph-244590 and Lewis Ann-244591 in 1803.
  65 M iv Lewis Randolph-370410 was born in 1773 in Va.
        Randolph married Howell Mary-370411 daughter of Howell Progenitor-145439 and HNotknown Miss-145438.
  66 M v Lewis Lilburne-370407.
        Lilburne married (1) Woodson Elizabeth Jane-370408 daughter of Woodson Progenitor-467206 and WNotknown Miss-467207.
        Lilburne married (2) Rutter Letitia Griffin-466701.
  67 F vi Lewis Lucy B.-466702 was born in 1789.
        Lucy married Griffin Washington-466703 son of Griffin Progenitor-466704 and GNotknown Miss-466705.

40. Tucker Martha-357283 (Lucretia Wynne , Martha Jefferson , Thomas Snr , John , Progenitor ).

rootsweb website on My Southern Family by Josephine Lindsay Bass and Becky Bonner.

Martha married Bell Benjamin-357284 daughter of Bell Progenitor-281467 and BNotknown Miss-281466.

rootsweb website on My Southern Family by Josephine Lindsay Bass and Becky Bonner.

Martha and Benjamin had the following children:

  68 F i Tucker Martha Jefferson-357285.

rootsweb website on My Southern Family by Josephine Lindsay Bass and Becky Bonner.

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