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11. Betham Edward-42975 (William , Edward , John , Edward , Progenitor ) was born in 1744. He was christened on 29 Mar 1744. He died in 1809.
He is an inventor, publisher, lecturer, went to London to 12 Fleet Street, freeman of Wheelwright's Co. founder and one of original directors of Eagle Insurance Co in 1807. Burke's LG for Betham.
Edward married Artist, Silhouettist Robinson Isabella-42974 daughter of Robinson John-46434 and RNotknown Miss-46421.
Burke's LG for Betham.
Edward and Isabella had the following children:
18 M i Betham Richard-108360.
Burke's LG for Betham.Richard married Frost Mary-111453 daughter of EICo merchant, JP Frost James-46420 and FNotknown Miss-46070.
Burke's LG for Betham.
12. Betham Harriott Henrietta Maria-94 (Richard , Richard , John , Edward , Progenitor ) was born in 1752 in Glasgow. She was christened on 7 Mar 1754 in Glasgow. She died in Scotland?.
She may have drs or granddrs, Eliz Barker and Mary Barker who benefit from will of Elizabeth Betham the wife of Wm Bligh qv. not named in http on colden-antill. Burke's LG for Betham. Some information per Borthwick. First child of Bethams. Married Richard Nicholls Colden of the Colden family of New York. After he died, she left America in 1778 for her father's house, presumably, on the Isle of Man. She remarried. She had formally left America by 1785. On the estates she was left, see G. Palmer, Biographical Sketches of Loyalists of the American Revolution. Meckler Pub. Westport. London. 1983. p. 165. estate valued at £21,790 sterling.
Harriott married (1) Baker Henry Aslire-483 son of Baker Senior-65669 and BUnknown Miss-133468 in UK.
Genealogy of WDC. He seems to be Barker in will of Elizabeth Betham.
Harriott married (2) Surveyor, of New York Colden Richard Nicholls-65629 son of Surveyor, Post-Master, New York Colden Alexander-65754 and Nicholls Elizabeth-256 in Unknown. The marriage ended in divorce.Richard was born in New York,probably. He died on 14 Aug 1777 in New York,probably. He was buried in 1777 in North America.
He was the son of Rev. Alexander Colden of New York and a grandson of Old Gov Colden of New York. One Alexander Colden was made searcher and surveyor of New York nd, replacing his father in that role.
Richard and Harriott had the following children:
13. Betham Elizabeth-17 (Richard , Richard , John , Edward , Progenitor ) was born in 1753 in Isle of man. She was christened on 7 Mar 1754 in Glasgow. She died on 15 Apr 1812 in Lambeth,Churchyard. She was buried in London.
see http://www.chrisknight.info/genealogy/- See letter of Aug 203 from Christine Helm, she has a cousin Edward Betham m to Isabella Robinson, a Robert Betham who went to America, cousin Rev William Betham m to Mary Damant. http - pillagoda-golden.htm Burke's LG for Betham. On the housing addresses of the Bligh family see Mackaness, Correspondence, Bligh-Bond, p. 32. Later the wife of William Bligh. Some information per Borthwick. She dies at Durham Place, London, England. From 1785-89, the BLIGH's lived at 4 Broad St., Wapping, London, England. The houses on the west side of Broad St. were demolished for the dock wall of the London Dock Act of 1800. This street today is known as Readon St., where there is a plaque to Capt. Bligh that was sited by the local Wapping History Society.
Elizabeth married Capt, Gov NSW Bligh William-15 son of Customs, Plymouth Bligh Francis-1386 and Balsam Jane-1387 on 4 Feb 1781 in Onchan,Parish Church,Isle of man. William was born on 9 Sep 1754 in Plymouth. He was christened on 4 Oct 1754 in St Andrew's,Plymouth. He died on 7 Dec 1817 in Farningham,Manor House,Kent. He was buried in Dec 1817 in Lambeth, London,Cemetery.
See Caroline Alexander, The Bounty. HarperCollins, 2003 (subject also of a TV documentary), which conveys that in 1809, as Bligh returns from deposed in NSW, poet Robert Southey uses a literary journal to write an "extraordinary attack" on Bligh, claiming inside knowledge of the mutiny and exonerating Fletcher Christian of wrongdoing. Caroline Alexander does not go along with this. Extra bibliog from e-mailer Christine Helm Aug 2003 in Germany, Ernest Betham, A House of Letters. Lonodn, Jarrolds Pub., 1904. J. E. Chandler, Beloved, respected and lamented: a story of the Mutiny on the Bounty, MGM Bounty's Exhibit, 1983. Madge Darby, Captain Bligh in Wapping. London, HIstory of Wapping Trust Publ, 1990. Rolf Harris, Mutiny on the Bounty: Captain Bligh, hero or villain? Sydney, Rolf Harris Prod, 1998. Warwick Hirst, My Dear, Dear Betsy: A Treasury of Australian Letters. Sydney, Hale and Iremonger, 1993. Gordon N. Kniveton, The Onchan Story: Douglas, Isle of Man: The Manx Experience. 1992.
Follows e-mail from Christopher Codrington, chriscod@bellsouth.net, means that slaver agitators for new "botanicals" for the West Indies included: several cabals of WI planters notably those re the Wallen family of Jamaica, Jasper Hall, various Campbells, Wests, Pattersons, Grant, French-Bogles (sic), originally of a Scots-Antiguan line; there is a Wallen botanical garden not named here. On Bligh's attitude to trade in spirits in NSW see Hainsworth, Traders, p. 56. Zena Bamping conveys that Bligh lived at the Manor House, Farningham, which is the next adjoining village to the north of Kingsdown, Kent. See Mackaness, Correspondence, Bligh-Bond, p. 5, says the late W. R. W. Bligh a great-grandson of Bligh was of Blackheath; and p. 35, Note 21 says Bligh was elected 21 May, 1801 to FRS for services to botany and navigation. See Mackaness, Correspondence, Bligh-Bond, p. 36, Note 64. Follows a curious matter on Walker, an improver of the compass who came back from Jamaica with Bligh on Providence of second breadfruit voyage, but was unlisted as a passenger, etc. Walker also promoted an idea of building London Dock(s) as a new pool for shipping. He died at Poplar. Explorers using Walker's revised compass included Matthew Flinders, John Ross and William Edward Parry. See W. E. May, 'The Gentleman of Jamaica', Mariner's Mirror, Vol. 73, 1987., pp. 149-165.Born at St. Tudy, near Plymouth, on 9 Sep 1754, Bligh was the son of a customs officer. His mother died when William was 14, but it was very early when his parents had decided on a naval career for their young son. He first appears in naval roles at the age of 9, when, at the behest of Hon. Keith Stewart, who is said to have been a close relative of his mother, he was entered as a personal servant to an officer on a man-of-war. This was a common practice, even at that age, in order to give young boys who were destined for a naval career the necessary six years qualification as early as possible. He was "paid off" on 21 Feb 1763. By the age of 15, he was not only well-versed in science and mathematics, but had developed fine talents as a writer and illustrator. He does not appear in the records again until 27 Jul 1770, when his name was entered on the paysheets of HMS Hunter, a small sloop mounting only 10 guns, rated as an AB and master's mate. This was soon after the death of his mother and the remarriage of his father, and these event may have had something to do with Bligh's re-entry into the navy. It is believed that, in accord with normal custom, he was carried as an "additional midshipman", that is, a young man deserving of officer's training, but carried in addition to the two official midshipman's positions on a naval vessel. They were officially recognized as junior officers in training, both by respect of crew and by duties assigned. They also became official midshipmen as soon as vacancies occurred. On 4 Feb 1771, he was discharged by order of Rear Admiral Sir Richard Spry, and re-entered the next day on the same ship as a midshipman. He remained on that ship until 22 Feb 1771, when he was reassigned to HMS Crescent whereon
he served until 23 Aug 1774. He then served on HMS Ranger. It was on 20 Mar 1776 that he received what was to be his first opportunity to visit the South Seas, when he was appointed Master on board HMS Resolution, commanded by Capt. James Cook, just prior to Cook's third voyage. At 22, to be appointed sailing master on a major research vessel was a great tribute to his skill and connections. There is evidence that he was in constant attendance on this ship, and in consultation with Cook and his officers constantly. On 1 May 1776, he passed his examination for Lieutenant. The voyage of the Resolution ended in late 1780, and Bligh took a 12-month leave from active duty, during which time he was married to Elizabeth Betham. Although little is known of his activities during this period, there is some indication that he may have spent time writing memoirs of the famous voyage with Cook. His wife's relationship to Sir Duncan and Captain Sir John Campbell paved the way to additional career-enhancing appointments. After serving on a number of ships, in June 1783, he entered the service of Duncan Campbell (1726-1803) in the West Indian trade. The pay of a junior lieutenant often demanded occasional forays into higher-paying positions, and this appears to have been the case here. It was in the service of Campbell that Bligh commanded his first ship, the Lynx. He remained in the Jamaica trade for four years, his last assignment on board Campbell's Brittania, where he was to meet Fletcher Christian and others who were to sail with him on the Bounty. After the Bounty voyage, Bligh commanded a number of scientific voyages. Specialization in scientific projects paid off, and he became a Fellow of the Royal Society. Late in 1796, he was appointed commander of HMS Director, a comparatively old ship, but a very important naval command. It was rated 4th class, mounted 64 guns and carried 491 crewmen. This marked Bligh's promotion to senior command assigment. It is also interesting that in 1797, Bligh was involved in another serious mutiny, known as the Mutiny at the Nore. The crews of a number of naval vessels, including the Director, under the command of Vice-Admiral Buckner, mutinied together. It was a bloody and violent struggle. At its conclusion, Bligh stood strongly behind his ship's crew, and was commended by both seaman and officer alike for his handling of the affair. His naval career was distinguished. Brave in battle, he was line astern of Nelson at Copenhagen in 1801. The wartime period ended in 1802, and Bligh again commanded a scientific voyage, this time a hydrological expedition. In 1805, he was appointed Governor of New South Wales. His success in the realm of politics, unfortunately, did not match his prowess as a Naval commander. His appointment lasted until 1808 when the colonists "mutinied" and sent him back to England. He arrived there on 25 Oct 1810, and never received further appointment. His service record was as follows:
* 01 Jul 1762 Captain's Servant: HMS Monmouth
* 27 Jul 1770 AB: HMS Hunter
* 05 Feb 1771 Midshipman: HMS Hunter
* 22 Sep 1771 Midshipman: HMS Crescent
* 02 Sep 1774 AB: HMS Ranger
* 30 Sep 1775 Midshipman: HMS Ranger
* 20 Mar 1776 Master: HMS Resolution
* 14 Feb 1781 Master: HMS Belle Poule
* 05 Oct 1781 Lieutenant: HMS Berwick
* 01 Jan 1782 Lieutenant: HMS Princess Amelia
* 20 Mar 1782 Lieutenant: HMS Cambridge
* 14 Jan 1783 Half-Pay Lieutenant
* 16 Aug 1787 Commanding Lieutenant: HMS Bounty
* 14 Nov 1790 Captain: HMS Falcon (sloop)
* 15 Dec 1790 Captain: HMS Medea
* 08 Jan 1791 Half-Pay Captain
* 16 Apr 1791 Captain: HMS Providence
* 07 Sep 1793 Half-Pay Captain
* 30 Apr 1795 Captain: HMS Calcutta
* 07 Jan 1796 Captain: HMS Director
* 03 Jul 1800 Half-Pay Captain
* 13 Mar 1801 Captain: HMS Glatton
* 12 Apr 1801 Captain: HMS Monarch
* 08 May 1801 Captain: HMS Irresistible
* 28 May 1802 Half-Pay Captain
* 02 May 1804 Captain: HMS Warrior
* 30 Apr 1805 Half-Pay Captain
* 24 May 1805 Governor of New South Wales
* 27 Sep 1805 Commander: HMS Porpoise
* 14 Nov 1805 Captain: HMS Porpoise
* 31 Jul 1808 Commodore: HMS Porpoise
* 03 Apr 1810 Commodore: HMS Hindostan
* 31 Jul 1810 Half-Pay Rear Admiral
* 04 Jun 1814 Half-Pay Vice Admiral
William Bligh does not deserve his popular reputation as a cruel villain. He could better be described as a "young turk ... a man moving in the fast lane". He evidenced early brilliance matched with the right connections. His perfectionism carried him far, but also led to most of his problems. He could not emotionally understand or deal well with persons who did not share his devotion to duty and detail. He was uncommonly concerned with the physical health of his men, and contrary to popular misconceptions, he was slow to impose corporal punishment. But he could, and did, impose fearful tongue- lashings, and his temper was legendary. These were not traits that would endear him to the violent, street-smart members of the lower classes who made up the bulk of the crews over which he served. Like many of today's corporate executives, he almost, but not quite, reached the pinnacle of his profession. He is a man deserving of admiration.
William and Elizabeth had the following children:
21 F i Bligh Harriet Maria-446.
Genealogy of WDC.+ 22 F ii Bligh Mary-98 was born in 1783. She died in 1864. 23 F iii Bligh Elizabeth-86 was born in 1786. She died in 1854.
Dr of Elizabeth Bligh.Elizabeth married Barrister Bligh Richard-449 son of Bligh Senior-48733 and BUnknown Miss-2244 in England,probably. Richard was born in 1785. He died in 1817.
ux414 ux42 re parents Does he have a son who is Land Commissioner in Hunter Valley area NSW by 1840s? Genealogy of WDC.24 F iv Miss Bligh Frances Ann-447.
Genealogy of WDC.25 F v Bligh Jane-448. + 26 F vi Bligh Harriet Maria-50840 was born on 15 Nov 1781. She died on 26 Feb 1856. + 27 F vii Bligh Elizabeth-80966 was born on 24 Mar 1786. She died on 17 Jul 1854. 28 F viii Bligh Jane-138813 was born on 11 May 1788 in London, England. She died in 1875 in England.
Jane was a twin.29 F ix Bligh Frances-160617 was born on 11 May 1788 in London, England. She died in 1862 in England.
Frances was a twin.30 F x Bligh Anne Campbell-149024 was born in 1785/1791 in England. She died on 1 Nov 1843/1844 in England.
Epileptic and mentally afflicted. http - pillagoda- golden.htm See Mackaness, Correspondence, Bligh-Bond, p. 32.31 M xi Bligh William-142265 was born in 1795 in England. He died in 1795 in England (age 1 day).
William was a twin.32 M xii Bligh Henry-33901 was born in 1795 in England. He died in 1795 in England (age 1 day).
Henry was a twin.
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