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109. Lord Sydney Of St Leonards, Visc1 Sydney Townshend Thomas-4977 (Thomas , Charles (Agric Improver) , Horatio , Roger , John , Roger , Richard , John , Roger II , Roger , John , Progenitor ) was born on 24 Feb 1733 in Of Kent. He died on 30 Jun 1800 in Frognal,Chiselhurst.
He is son1. See Atkinson, Vol. 1, on descent from republican Algernon Sydney. Does he have a sister Sarah? See mystery entry for a Sarah Townshend. He initially sat in the interest of the Selwyn family; his uncle is George Augustus Selwyn. He was early faithful to Newcastle. Namier /Brooke do not mention the Australian matter in their entry on this man. Namier/Brooke, Vol. 3, p. 554. See Haffenden, p. 36. On April 22, 1691, one Lord Sydney looking into agents of New England on admin details of North American colonies. Scorgie/Hudgson, table, p. 25. GEC, Peerage, Dinevor, p. 303; Townshend, p. 806; Sydney of Chiselhurst, St Leonards and Scadbury, p. 590. GEC, Peerage, Midleton, p. 703. Cf, Alan Valentine, in ref section Dixson. British Establishment, 1760-1784. 920.041/3157, Vols 1&2. His DNB. GEC, Peerage, Romney, p. 87. Frost, Cons and Emp, p. 45, Lord Sydney disagreed with Pitt over the slave trade in mid-1789 and left politics for a sinecure. See Frost, Cons and Empire, p. 6, his grandfather had played a role in England's affairs in early 1700s, Sec of State, Lord President of Privy Council, T's father sat in Parlt for 52 years. His cousin Charles was secretary of the Admiralty, sometime President of the Board of Trade, Sec of War, Chancellor of Exchequer. TT graduated MA from Clare Hall at Cambridge in 1753 and he was a Lord of Treasury from 1765-1768. http from stirnet.com file2 on Townshends of Leicester, of Raynham, Townshend the Lords Bayning of Foxley, Townshend Lords Sydney and Lords Townshend.
Derek Townshend a descendant of this family, qv, e-mails as follows on 7-2-2005.
Dear Dan, My next question . . . I have been looking at Lord Sydney's interaction with James Mario Matra, which seems to be the largest form of resentment eminating from Australia towards Lord Sydney. Matra's first article; A proposal for Establishing a Settlement in New South Wales to Atone for the Loss of our American Colonies was an elaborate 38 page plan on how Loyalist settlements in NSW would work. He presented it to the British government on 23rd August 1783. The common accusation is that Lord Sydney ignored this plan and basically deserted prospects in Australia.What is NOT mentioned is that on the 23rd August 1783 Lord Sydney was not the Home Secretary. In fact, the documents would have been received by the Duke of Portland's ministry from (April 1783 to Dec 1783) when Lord North was the Home Secretary. Also worth noting is that Lord Sydney was one of
North's fiercest critics when he was previously prime-minister (1770 to 1782). So, in Dec 1783 Lord Sydney as Home Secretary stepped into the position of his arch-enemy, Lord North. It would not surprise me if Lord North made it as difficult as possible for Sydney to take over the reigns by not forwarding Matra's plans to him.What I am suggesting is very significant, Lord North who received Matra's proposals may have changed the coarse of Australian history by purposefully witholding information out of spite towards Lord Sydney. We know from supporters of North, i.e. Nathaniel Wraxall and the events surrounding the
by-election of the 1784 Westminster seat, that that faction was able to stoop pretty low.Another common Australian accusation derived from Sydney's apparent ignoring of Matra is that he cared little of British American Loyalists who were driven out of America by the intolerant revolutionaries. This is clearly not the case. Sydney's prompt actions and replies to Gov Fanning and DesBarres in Canada show that he was indeed on top of the Loyalist situation. In fact, I would say that his ignoring of James Matra is very out of character. So, my question is, has anyone ever investigated the animosity between North and Sydney being the reason for Matra's plans being ignored? Regards, Derek
Thomas married Lady Bedchamber, Of Suffolk Powys Elizabeth (Elise?)-14331 daughter of Of Suffolk, MP Powys Richard-14332 and Lady Brudenell Mary-14333 on 19 May 1760 in St Georges,Hanover Square. Elizabeth was born on 7 Apr 1736. She died on 1 May 1826.
She is dr1. This entry follows GEC, Peerage, Sydney of Chiselhurst, St Leonards and Scadbury, pp. 590ff. See Scorgie/Hudgson, table, p. 25. GEC, Peerage, Sydney of Chiselhurst, Sydney and St Leonards, pp. 590ff. Namier/brooke.
Thomas and Elizabeth had the following children:
+ 177 M i Visc2 Sydney, Under-Sec Home Office Townshend John Thomas-1479 was born on 21 Feb 1764. He died on 20 Jan 1831. 178 M ii Townshend William Augustus-15980.
No notes.+ 179 F iii Townshend Frances-15983 was born on 20 Feb 1772. She died on 13 Aug 1854. + 180 F iv Cousin Townshend Harriet Catherine-7419 was born on 29 Nov 1773. She died on 24 Aug 1814. 181 F v Townshend Mary Elizabeth Elise-16530 was born on 2 Sep 1762. She died on 21 May 1821.
http from stirnet.com file2 on Townshends of Leicester, of Raynham, Townshend the Lords Bayning of Foxley, Townshend Lords Sydney and Lords Townshend. She is dr2. GEC, Peerage, Richmond, p. 147; Chatam, p. 147.Mary married Lord Admiralty, Master Ordnance, Earl2 Chatam Pitt John-16531 son of William Politician Earl1 Chatam Pitt The Elder-15997 and Viscntss Cobham,Brnss Chatam Grenville Hester-15998 on 10 Jul 1783. John was born on 7 Nov 1756. He was christened in Hayes,Kent. He died on 24 Sep 1835 in London. He was buried in Westminster,Abbey.
Code-red. Gov-Gen of Gibraltar since 1820. His own DNB entry, no issue. Valentine, British Establishment, p. 705. GEC, Peerage, Chatam, p. 146. He is Lord of Admiralty 1788 to Dec 1794. GEC, Peerage, Chatam, p. 144. Baron2 Chatam. He has no issue. http on Pitt families of Blandford, Boconnoc, Camelford, Chatham, Londonderry, Strathfieldsaye and Pitt Lord Rivers.
111. Dr1 Townshend Albinia-11642 (Thomas , Charles (Agric Improver) , Horatio , Roger , John , Roger , Richard , John , Roger II , Roger , John , Progenitor ) died in Sep 1808. She was buried on 24 Sep 1808.
GEC, Peerage, Midleton, p. 703.
Albinia married Visc3 Midleton Brodrick George-11641 son of Visc2 Midleton Brodrick Alan-11639 and Capell Mary-11640 on 1 May 1752 in St James,Westminster. George was born on 3 Oct 1730. He died in Aug 1765. He was buried on 28 Aug 1765.
He is son1. Valentine, Estab, p. 108. GEC, Peerage, Midleton, p. 703.
George and Albinia had the following children:
+ 182 M i MP, Visc Midleton Brodrick George-11643 was born in Nov 1754. He died in Aug 1833. + 183 M ii Rev Archbishop of Cashel Brodrick Charles-25112 was born in 1761. He died in 1822.
113. Sarah maybe Townshend Sister-51101 (Thomas , Charles (Agric Improver) , Horatio , Roger , John , Roger , Richard , John , Roger II , Roger , John , Progenitor ).
Her name is probably Sarah. Half-identified in http genuki on Maxwells of Calderwood. She is sister of Lord Sydney, not named in Burke's P&B for Farquhar.
Sister married Cosby Pole-116475 son of Cosby Dudley-206044 and Of Ballyfin, England Pole Sarah-206045. Pole was born in 1703. He died in 1766.
He in US http m to Mary Dodwell (d.1742) dr of Henry Dodwell of Manor Dodwell in Co Roscommon, Ireland. From US http on Cosby family. He is of Strabally Hall in http genuki on Maxwells of Calderwood qv. Burke's P&B for Farquhar.
Pole and Sister had the following children:
114. Visc4 Townshend of Raynham, Mqs1 Townshend Townshend George-64547 (Charles , Charles (Agric Improver) , Horatio , Roger , John , Roger , Richard , John , Roger II , Roger , John , Progenitor ) was born on 28 Feb 1723 in London. He died on 14 Sep 1807.
http from stirnet.com file2 on Townshends of Leicester, of Raynham, Townshend the Lords Bayning of Foxley, Townshend Lords Sydney and Lords Townshend. George Visc4 Townshend of Raynham /Townshend/ Mqs1 Townshend/ GEC, Peerage, Ferrers, p. 333, table. Compton, p. 391; Leeds, p. 516. He is also ADC to Duke Cumberland in Flanders, Master General of Ordnance, 1772-1782; He may have served at Culloden with Capt Bligh's 20th, later Lanc. Fuseliers, Regt of Foot at Culloden, on 16 Apr 1746, see GEC, Peerage, Townshend, p. 808. See re DC's brother. Namier/Brooke, Vol. 3, p. 553 for his son John. Namier/Brooke, Vol. 3, p. 548. He is Lord Lt of Ireland in 1807. GEC, Peerage, Ferrers, pp. 332-334. GEC suggests he was with Capt Bligh's 20th, later the Lanc Fuseliers, Regt of Foot, 29 May 1745, this George Townshend served with this unit, taking part in battle of Culloden, 16 Apr 1646. This man later ADC to Duke of Cumberland in Flanders. He took part in storming the Heights of Quebec, 13 Sep[ 1759, assumed command after death of General Wolfe, Master General Ordnance (London) 1772-1782-1783 therefore in the period when the convict hulks were established, Lord-Lt Ireland 1767-1772; GEC, Peerage, Townshend, pp. 808-809. He is son1.
George married (1) Baroness Compton, Baroness Ferrers, wife1 Compton Charlotte-64548 daughter of Baron6 Compton Earl5 Northampton Compton James-14401 and Baroness Ferrers suo jure Shirley Elizabeth-41991 on 19 Dec 1751 in London. Charlotte was born in 1749. She died on 14 Sep 1770. She was buried in East Raynham.
http from stirnet.com file2 on Townshends of Leicester, of Raynham, Townshend the Lords Bayning of Foxley, Townshend Lords Sydney and Lords Townshend. Baron7 Compton, dr3, has a fortune, wife1. Charlotte Baroness Compton Baroness Ferrers/Compton/ wife1 GEC, Peerage, Compton, p. 391; Townshend, pp. 809-810. Reckoned the wealthiest heiress of her time. GEC, Peerage, Ferrers, p. 332.
George and Charlotte had the following children:
+ 185 M i Visc5 Townshend, Earl Leicester Townshend George (Ellerker)-25712 was born on 18 Apr 1753. He died on 27 Jul 1811. + 186 M ii Rt Hon, Lord Townshend John-64621 was born on 19 Jan 1757. He died on 25 Feb 1833. + 187 F iii Townshend Elizabeth-286398 died in 1811.
George married (2) wife2 Montgomery Anne-32874 daughter of Sir Bart1 Montgomery William-17215 and wife2, of Tweeddale Tomkyns Hannah-51152 on 19 May 1773. Anne died in 1819.
http from stirnet.com file2 on Townshends of Leicester, of Raynham, Townshend the Lords Bayning of Foxley, Townshend Lords Sydney and Lords Townshend. GEC, Peerage, Leeds, p. 516. Namier/Brooke. GEC, Peerage, Townshend, p. 809.
George and Anne had the following children:
+ 188 F iv Lady Townshend Charlotte-51174 was born in 1776. She died in 1856. 189 F v Captain RN Townshend James Nugent Boyle Bernard-286404 was born in 1785. She died in 1842.
http from stirnet.com file2 on Townshends of Leicester, of Raynham, Townshend the Lords Bayning of Foxley, Townshend Lords Sydney and Lords Townshend.James married Wallis Elizabeth-286415 son of Wallis P.-286416 and WNotknown Miss-286417. Elizabeth died in 1873.
http from stirnet.com file2 on Townshends of Leicester, of Raynham, Townshend the Lords Bayning of Foxley, Townshend Lords Sydney and Lords Townshend.190 F vi Townshend Anne-286405 died in 1826.
http from stirnet.com file2 on Townshends of Leicester, of Raynham, Townshend the Lords Bayning of Foxley, Townshend Lords Sydney and Lords Townshend.Anne married Hudson Harrington-286412 son of Hudson Senior-286413 and HNotknown Miss-286414.
http from stirnet.com file2 on Townshends of Leicester, of Raynham, Townshend the Lords Bayning of Foxley, Townshend Lords Sydney and Lords Townshend.191 F vii Townshend Henrietta-286406 died in 1848.
http from stirnet.com file2 on Townshends of Leicester, of Raynham, Townshend the Lords Bayning of Foxley, Townshend Lords Sydney and Lords Townshend.Henrietta married Lt-General, Lord3 Blaquiere William de-286409 son of Blaquiere Senior-286410 and BNotknown Miss-286411.
http from stirnet.com file2 on Townshends of Leicester, of Raynham, Townshend the Lords Bayning of Foxley, Townshend Lords Sydney and Lords Townshend.192 M viii Townshend William-286407.
http from stirnet.com file2 on Townshends of Leicester, of Raynham, Townshend the Lords Bayning of Foxley, Townshend Lords Sydney and Lords Townshend.193 F ix Townshend Honoria Maria-286408 died in 1826.
http from stirnet.com file2 on Townshends of Leicester, of Raynham, Townshend the Lords Bayning of Foxley, Townshend Lords Sydney and Lords Townshend.
115. Chanc Exchq, MP, Rt Hon Townshend Charles-16623 (Charles , Charles (Agric Improver) , Horatio , Roger , John , Roger , Richard , John , Roger II , Roger , John , Progenitor ) was born on 27 Aug 1725 in Circa. He died on 4 Sep 1767.
http from stirnet.com file2 on Townshends of Leicester, of Raynham, Townshend the Lords Bayning of Foxley, Townshend Lords Sydney and Lords Townshend. He is son2. Noted p. 20 in Christie on non-elite mps. He is an epileptic. His step-mother is sister of the great Sir Rbt Walpole. He had an unfortunate time prior to outbreak of Am Rev. Cf., Lewis Namier, book, more to come. Namier/Brooke, Vol. 3, p. 539. GEC, Peerage, Townshend, p. 808; Buccleuch, p. 368.
Charles married Brnss Greenwich Campbell Caroline-22426 daughter of Duke1 Greenwich, Duke2 Argyll Campbell John-3813 and wife2 Warburton Jane-69278 on 18 Sep 1755. Caroline was born on 17 Nov 1717. She died on 11 Jan 1794.
http from stirnet.com file2 on Townshends of Leicester, of Raynham, Townshend the Lords Bayning of Foxley, Townshend Lords Sydney and Lords Townshend. She is dr1. See her sister in GEC, Peerage, Strafford, p. 329. She inherited land acquired by her father. (What was the method of acquisition?) GEC, Peerage, Buccleuch, pp. 368-369. GEC, Peerage, Townshend, p. 808. Her husband's entry in Valentine, establishment.
Charles and Caroline had the following children:
+ 194 F i Townshend Anne-57577.
118. Baron1 Bayning of Foxley Townshend Charles-22412 (William , Charles (Agric Improver) , Horatio , Roger , John , Roger , Richard , John , Roger II , Roger , John , Progenitor ) was born on 27 Aug 1728. He died on 19 May 1810.
He is an only son. GEC, Peerage, Bayning, p. 36; Townshend, p. 806.
Charles married Cousin Smith Annabella-118614 daughter of Rev Smith Richard-118616 and Paulet Annabella-118615 on 21 Aug 1777. Annabella died on 3 Jan 1825.
She is his cousin once removed. GEC, Peerage, Bayning, p. 36.
Charles and Annabella had the following children:
195 M i Baron2 Bayning Townshend Charles Frederick Powlett-29314 was born on 26 Sep 1785. He died on 2 Aug 1823.
http from stirnet.com file2 on Townshends of Leicester, of Raynham, Townshend the Lords Bayning of Foxley, Townshend Lords Sydney and Lords Townshend. He Unm, son1. GEC, Peerage, Bayning, p. 36.+ 196 M ii Baron3 Bayning (Powlett), Rev Townshend Henry (Powlett)-29313 was born on 8 Jun 1797. He died on 5 Aug 1866.
124. Lady, wife2 Cornwallis Mary-36865 (Elizabeth Townshend , Charles (Agric Improver) , Horatio , Roger , John , Roger , Richard , John , Roger II , Roger , John , Progenitor ).
GEC, Peerage, Northbrook, p. 691; Saint John, p. 338.
Mary married Brewer, MP, of Beds Whitbread Samuel-36864 son of Of Beds, Land Tax Receiver Whitbread Henry-11167 and Read Elizabeth-11168 on 18 Aug 1769 in England. Samuel was born on 30 Aug 1720. He died in 1796 in England.
He is son5. In IG Internet it is given he may in 18 Jan 1789 married to ? Embleton (?). Later, Whitbread helps finance Howard's European travels. See DL Howard on John Howard qv, he is friend of Howard from boyhood at Cardington. Whitbread early goes to London as apprentice, then partners with Shewell for brewing, in 1745 the concern moved to Chiswell St in East End, in 1761 Whitbread became sole owner and had borrowed money from Howard to expand. in 1785 he was one of first businessmen to employ Watt's steam engine. Cf, Christie on non-elite mps, citing Peter Mathias, The Brewing Industry in England, Cambridge, 1959. Burke's LG for Whitbread formerly of Southill. He leaves land to son in Bedfordshire worth £250,000. He is of Bedwell Park, Herts. GEC, Peerage, Northbrook, p. 691. See him in Linda Colley. He gave away about £3000 of benevolence per year. His early brewing partners were Thomas and Godfrey Shewell not yet qv, after 1736. By 1761 Whitbread had a fortune of £116,000. Namier/ Brooke, Vol. 3, p. 629. Cf, and maybe also mentioning Calvert brewers, Peter Matthias, The Brewing Industry in England, 1700-1803. CUP. 1959. GEC, Peerage, Saint John, p. 338. This man suicided. Large fortune as a brewer and a large landowner in Bedfordshire. Stenton, Vol. 1, Brit Partls, p. 394.
Samuel and Mary had the following children:
+ 197 F i Whitbread Mary-47966 was born on 20 Oct 1804. She died on 23 Apr 1858.
125. Earl2 Cornwallis, Gov General India Cornwallis Charles-6169 (Elizabeth Townshend , Charles (Agric Improver) , Horatio , Roger , John , Roger , Richard , John , Roger II , Roger , John , Progenitor ) was born on 31 Dec 1738 in Grosvenor Sq. He died on 5 Oct 1805 in Ghazipore,India.
Code-red. Born at Grosvenor Sq, son2, Visc Brome. See Namier/Brooke, Vol. 2, p. 256, On the Money Pit Mystery on Oak Island, Nova Scotia, see Rupert Furneaux, The Money Pit Mystery, cited in Riddle of the Money Pit, Reader's Digest title cited also for Louis XIII and Man in the Velvet Mask. He is once master general of the Ordnance. See notes on his brother from Frost's book re Penang as a penal colony. Valentine, Estab, in 1792 he becomes Marquis Cornwallis. Evans, Modern state. Cf., Ira D. Gruber, The Howe Bros and the American Revolution. New York. Atheneum. 1972. J. P. Greene and Pole, Blackwell, p. 714. GEC, Peerage, Cornwallis, p. 456.
Charles married Jones Jemima Tulikens (Skelton)-25760 daughter of Capt, soldier Jones James-34416 and Spinster Tulikens Mary-34417 on 14 Jul 1768. Jemima died on 14 Apr 1779.
GEC, Peerage, Cornwallis, p. 456.
Charles and Jemima had the following children:
+ 198 M i Mqs2 Cornwallis Cornwallis Charles-34408 was born on 19 Oct 1774. He died on 9 Aug 1823. 199 F ii Cornwallis Mary-485653. Mary married MP and Storekeeper to Ordnance Singleton Mark-485650 son of Of Dublin Singleton Sydenham formerly Fowke-485651 and Whyte Elizabeth-485652 in 1785. Mark was born in 1762. He died in 1840.
He and Cornwallis were a runaway match. He is son3. Of Cavenham Hall or of Wimbledon Surrey. See stirnet file1 on Cornwallis. gaps3 gaps4 He is Storekeeper of Ordnance circa 1806 from 1795, to bereplaced by Duke Wellington who had found his dilatory in the business. He is brother in law of M. Cornwallis a half-brother of Sir Miles Nightingale qv. Cf., RG Thorne, The House of Commons, 1790-1820.
127. Rev Earl4 Cornwallis, Dean of Durham Cornwallis James-5615 (Elizabeth Townshend , Charles (Agric Improver) , Horatio , Roger , John , Roger , Richard , John , Roger II , Roger , John , Progenitor ) was born in 1742 in Circa. He died on 20 Jan 1824.
He is son3. Valentine, Brit Estab, Vol. 1, p. 209. GEC, Peerage, Cornwallis, p. 458; see Lilford, p. 658.
James married Mann Catherine-35388 daughter of Clothier of Egerton, Kent Mann Galfridus-22694 and Gregory Sarah-22695 on 30 Apr 1771 in Lambeth,Chapel.
GEC, Peerage, Lilford, p. 658; Cornwallis, p. 458.
James and Catherine had the following children:
+ 200 M i Earl5 Cornwallis Cornwallis James (Mann) extinct-37221 was born on 20 Sep 1778. He died on 21 May 1852.
130. Townshend Elizabeth-286441 (Edward , Charles (Agric Improver) , Horatio , Roger , John , Roger , Richard , John , Roger II , Roger , John , Progenitor ) was born in 1750 in Raynham Norfolk. She died in 1798.
She had four children. http from stirnet.com file2 on Townshends of Leicester, of Raynham, Townshend the Lords Bayning of Foxley, Townshend Lords Sydney and Lords Townshend.
Elizabeth married Rector of Eswarton Driffield Walter Wren-286439 son of Driffield Joseph-313408 and Coyte Mary-313409. Walter was born in 1742 in Suffolk. He died in 1828 in Feering Essex.
http from stirnet.com file2 on Townshends of Leicester, of Raynham, Townshend the Lords Bayning of Foxley, Townshend Lords Sydney and Lords Townshend.
Walter and Elizabeth had the following children:
201 M i Rev Driffield Charles George Thomas-488853.
131. wife2 Townshend Charlotte-36570 (Edward , Charles (Agric Improver) , Horatio , Roger , John , Roger , Richard , John , Roger II , Roger , John , Progenitor ) died in 1777.
http from stirnet.com file2 on Townshends of Leicester, of Raynham, Townshend the Lords Bayning of Foxley, Townshend Lords Sydney and Lords Townshend. thepeerage.com. GEC, Peerage, Wodehouse of Kimberley, p. 269.
Charlotte married (1) Co Norfolk High Sherrif Norris John-482199 son of Norris John-33243 and Carthew Anna-46111. John was born in 1734.
GEC, Peerage, Wodehouse of Kimberley, p. 269.
John and Charlotte had the following children:
+ 202 F i Norris Charlotte Laura-36564.
Charlotte married (2) Farquier Thomas-126979 son of Farquier Senior-252122 and FNotknown Mss-252123.
134. Sir Bart5 Alston Thomas-214035 (Rowland Alston , Temperance Crewe , Mary Townshend , Roger , John , Roger , Richard , John , Roger II , Roger , John , Progenitor ).
Thomas married (1) Lee Margaret-165748 daughter of Lee Progenitor-165752 and LNotknown Miss-165753. Margaret died in 1809.
They had the following children:
+ 203 M i Alston-Lee Thomas-165749 was born in 1755. He died in 1823.
Thomas married (2) Alston Catherine Davies Bovey-165747 daughter of Alston Progenitor-151273 and ANotknown Miss-170603. Catherine was born in 1762 in Circa. She died in 1843.
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