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26. US President Roosevelt Franklin Delano-67265 (James , Isaac , James , Isaac , James Jacobus , Nicholas , Claes Martensen van Rosenvelt , Progenitor ) was born on 30 Jan 1882 in Hyde Park, Dutchess County, New York. He died on 12 Apr 1945 in Warm Springs, Georgia. He was buried in Hyde Park, New York.
See http on Livingston of New York by Mary Van Deusen. Soundly defeated Herbert Hoover in the 1932 election by a popular vote of 22,809,638 to 15,758,901 and an electoral vote of 472 to 59. Was re-elected in 1936 over Alfred Landon by votes of 27,752,869 to 16,674,665 and 523 to 8, again in 1940 over endell L. Willkie by votes of 27,307,819 to 22, 321,018 and 449 to 82, and yet again in 1944 over Thomas E. Dewey by votes of 25, 606,585 to 22,014,745 and 432 to 99; the only president elected 4 times. Since age 39 his legs were paralyzed. Garner, Wallace, and Truman were his vice-presidents. This man has a grandson, Curtis Roosevelt, who cruises conferences on his grandfather's career as president, etc. http update on Livingston of New York. See US website on ancestors of William Addams Reitwiesner.
Franklin married Roosevelt Eleanor (Anna)-127749 daughter of Roosevelt Elliot-283873 and Hall Anna Rebecca-105136 on 17 Mar 1905 in New York. Eleanor was born on 12 Oct 1884 in New York City, New York. She died on 7 Nov 1962 in New York City, New York.
http on Livingston of New York by Mary Van Deusen. Niece of President Theodere Roosevelt and fifth cousin of her husband. After FDR's death she was appointed the US representative to the United Nations, where she served for 16 years. http update on Livingston of New York. See US website on ancestors of William Addams Reitwiesner.
Franklin and Eleanor had the following children:
33 M i Franklin Delano Roosevelt-109504 was born on 18 Mar 1909 in New York City, New York. He died on 8 Nov 1909 in New York City, New York.
No notes.+ 34 M ii Roosevelt Franklin Delano Jnr-117070 was born on 17 Aug 1914. He died on 17 Aug 1988. + 35 M iii Roosevelt John Aspinwall-126530 was born on 13 Mar 1916. He died on 27 Apr 1981. + 36 M iv Roosevelt James-344246 was born in 1907. He died in 1991. 37 F v Roosevelt Anna Eleanor-344257.
27. Roosevelt James IV-115493 (James , Isaac , James , Isaac , James Jacobus , Nicholas , Claes Martensen van Rosenvelt , Progenitor ) was born in 1854. He died in 1927.
He is called "Rosy". http per Linda Minor. http from stirnet.com file rooseveltrzmisc04.
James married Astor Helen Schermerhorn-52372 daughter of Astor William II Backhouse Jnr-48148 and Socialite Schermerhorn Caroline Webster-29938. Helen was born in 1855. She died in 1893.
http per Linda Minor. http from stirnet.com file rooseveltrzmisc04.
James and Helen had the following children:
+ 38 F i Roosevelt Helen Rebecca-446112 was born in 1881. She died in 1952.
29. Theodore US Roosevelt President-32408 (Theodore , Cornelius van Schaack , James Jacobus , Jacobus , Johannes , Nicholas , Claes Martensen van Rosenvelt , Progenitor ) was born in 1858. He died in 1919.
http://ntgen.tripod.com/bw/burr_hamilton.html - His wife2 is Edith Kermit Carow. His wife1 is Alice Hathaway Lee of Boston d. 1884 mother of their lone dr. His own Encycyclopedia Britannica entry. Additional information per a web treatment (accessed 30-8-2007) of Senator John Forbes Kerry (b. 1943) by William Addams Reitwiesner Genealogical Services - email to: wargs@wargs.com (with help from David Curtis Dearborn and Gary Boyd Roberts et al.
Theodore married (1) Wife2 Carow Edith Kermit-103946 daughter of Shipowner Red Star Line Carow Charles-481700 and Tyler Gertrude Elizabeth-106522. Edith was born in 1861. She died in 1948.
email from Linda Minor - Dan, her friend Lois in California seems to connect all evils back to Kermit Roosevelt II. He was the grandson of Theodore Roosevelt and his second wife, Edith Kermit Carow Roosevelt. Her son Kermit served with the British military and also as an officer of the International Mercantile Marine, a very strange enterprise. Edith's relatives were involved in shipping. They were evidently quite secretive in what they did. Following the genealogy material is some information about shipping during the 1800's when Robert Kermit and Charles Carow were alive and working.
Linda
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Sources Cited in Square-riggers on schedule; the New York sailing packets to England, France, and the cotton ports by Robert Greenhalgh Albion - ThiS will be limited to works which bear particularly upon the packets. Robert Kermit and Charles Carow are discussed in Edith K. C. and Kermit Roosevelt, American Backlogs (1928).<http://www.defreest.com/ged/nti09074.htm>
After TR's death in 1919, Edith traveled extensively, including visits to Puerto Rico, Portugal and one to the Philippines when her son, "Ted, Jr" was Governor of those islands. She made a few public appearances on behalf of Hoover as he campaigned against TR's cousin, Franklin Delano Roosevelt. - the rift between branches of the family was greatly overblown by press and gossip... It is a difficult thing for any parent to survive her children. Edith outlived three of her sons as well as her husband. Quentin had been shot down behind enemy lines and killed in WWI at the tender age of twenty. WWII again called her sons. Edith watched as Kermit sought and was occasionally given various posts including his final post in Alaska. And she watched with great sadness his fiercest battle, the same that her father had fought, the battle with alcoholism leading to Kermit's eventual suicide (although she was told he died of heart problems). Her grandchildren and great-grandchildren gave her joy in her last years, but there would still be one more of her children to bury. "Ted, Jr", was by now Brigadier General Theodore Roosevelt, Jr, and again in the thick of a World War. She was proud when he fought again in France, this time earning France's highest military honor, the "Legion of Honor". He was in the first boat to land on Utah Beach, the oldest man in the first wave on "D day". Ted's son, called Quentin after his uncle, also fought with distinction in that war. After several months of terrible and exhausting battle, Ted Jr. died suddenly of heart failure. He received the Medal of Honor, posthumously. Edith also outlived the "other" Roosevelt President.***
Organizing her death as she had her life she made her will almost exactly two years before she died, dividing the bulk of her estate between her natural surviving children Archie and Ethel or their spouses Eleanor (Ted) and Belle (Kermit).
*** Edith wrote a book on her family - American Backlogs: The Story of Gertrude Tyler and Her Family, 1660-1860 (1928), and contributed to Cleared for Strange Ports (1924).
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During World War I, Kermit fought with the British Army, joining as a Captain, later, when stricken with malaria, he was transferred to the US Army. Kermit accompanied his father on both the African safari, and the exploration of the River of Doubt (renamed Rio Roosevelt) in the Amazon of Brazil. Kermit married Belle Wyatt Willard on 10 Jun 1914 in Madrid, Spain. (Belle Wyatt Willard was born on 1 Jul 1892 in Baltimore, Maryland and died on 30 Mar 1968 in Manhattan, New York.)
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Before 1900 the Pennsylvania Railroad management decided to diversify and invested in a steamship and shipbuilding company called American Steamship Co. (ASC), created in 1873. Washington Butcher, who sat on the board of the Pennsylvania RR in 1850, as shown on the PRR's annual report, (5) was also a director and president of American Steamship Company, which also had financial backing from the Philadelphia Quaker community. According to the annual reports in 1891, the PRR had invested at least $3 million in the American Steamship Co., a steamship line designed to carry passengers and cargo across the North Atlantic from Philadelphia to Liverpool. (6) American Steamship was better known as the American Line. (7) This company had contacts with Albert Ballin in Hamburg, whose father owned a travel agency for immigrants. Albert took over the continental booking operations for the Philadelphia-based American Line, which served the Liverpool-New York route. After 1881, Ballin found a Hamburg ship owner--the Carr-Line-- who would allow him to bypass Liverpool. Ballin's new business was bought by the American Line in 1886, creating the Hamburg-Amerika Line, for which Ballin became managing director in 1899. In 1902 American Steamship Co. was acquired by International Mercantile Marine Co. of New Jersey (IMM). Ships for the American Line's use were built by William Cramp Shipbuilding in Philadelphia. Both IMM and Cramp would be purchased in 1915 by a new corporation known as American International Corporation (AIC). The corporate web of the International Mercantile Marine (IMM) was disclosed in hearings held following the sinking of the Titanic, one of the ships owned by IMM. (8)
8 <http://www.titanicinquiry.org/USInq/AmInq03Franklin01.html> An inquiry into the Titanic disaster revealed the following details about the corporate structure of the International Mercantile Marine Co.:
Senator SMITH. What composes the International Mercantile Marine Co.?
Mr. FRANKLIN. In a general way, the International Mercantile Marine Co., through its various ramifications, owns the White Star Line, the American Line, the Red Star Line, the Atlantic Transport Line, and the National Line, and the majority of the stock of the Leyland Line.
Senator SMITH. What is the capitalization of your company?
Mr. FRANKLIN. The capitalization, in round numbers, is $100,000,000 between the preferred and common shares; $52,000,000 of 4 1/2 per cent bonds; about $19,000,000 of 5 per cent bonds, and some underlying bonds, amounting to about $7,000,000.
Senator SMITH. What is the business of the company?
Mr. FRANKLIN. The business of the company is that they own steamers which are operating in various trans-Atlantic and trans-oceanic trades, carrying freight and passengers.
Senator SMITH. Does the International Mercantile Marine own the White Star Line or control it?
Mr. FRANKLIN. The International Mercantile Marine Co. owns or controls the International Navigation Co. (Ltd.) of England, which company owns the shares of the Oceanic Steam Navigation Co., which company owns the White Star steamers.
Senator SMITH. How many ships are there in the White Star Line, so-called?
Mr. FRANKLIN. I could not tell you that, but I have a record here that could give you the information. We will produce an annual report which will show that. We can come back to that, Senator. It will have to be worked out of our report.
Senator SMITH. I will pass for the moment, that inquiry, and ask if you can give us a detailed statement of the owners, officers, and directors of those various companies composing the International Mercantile Marine Co.?
Mr. FRANKLIN. I could not do that in detail without looking it up for you, because a great many of the companies are located abroad; but I can give you the directors of the International Mercantile Marine Co.
Senator SMITH. Can you do so now?
Mr. FRANKLIN. Yes, sir.
These are the directors: C. A. Griscom, E. C. Grenfell, John I. Waterbury, the Right Honorable Lord Pirrie, George W. Perkins, Charles Steel, J. Bruce Ismay, Percy Chubb, E. J. Berwind, Harold A. Sanderson, P. A. B Widener, Charles F. Torrey, J. P. Morgan, Jr.
Senator SMITH. Who are the officers of that company?
Mr. FRANKLIN. The officers are: President, J. Bruce Ismay; vice presidents, E. C. Grenfell, Harold A. Sanderson, and P. A. S. Franklin.
Senator SMITH. Where do the officers of the company reside?
Mr. FRANKLIN. Mr. Ismay, the president, resides in Liverpool; Mr. Grenfell resides in London; Mr. Sanderson resides in Liverpool; Mr. Franklin resides in New York.
See also <http://www.ushistory.org/philadelphia/timeline/1898.htm> and <http://www.navpoint.com/~arpit/cramp.htm> and <http://www.titanicinquiry.org/BOTInq/BOTReport/BOTRepWSL.html> and <http://belgium.rootsweb.com/migr/ships/tr_lines_rsl.html>
Griscom, Clement Acton (Mar. 15, 1841 - Nov. 10, 1912), financier and ship-owner, born in Philadelphia, Pa., was educated in the public and private schools of Philadelphia, graduating from the Friends' Academy in 1857 at the age of sixteen. At nineteen he started in business as a clerk with the importing firm of Peter Wright & Sons of Philadelphia, which he encouraged to purchase their own sailing ships, and later steamships. Peter Wright & Sons became the agents of the American Steamship Company, operating between Philadelphia and Liverpool, which was organized in 1871 and controlled by the Pennsylvania Railroad Company. In the same year the firm became the agents for the International Navigation Company, of which Griscom was made vice-president and in 1888 was elected president. The ships of the International Navigation Company, generally known as the Red Star Line, operated under a Belgian charter (the Société Anonyme Belge-Américaine). In 1884 the company bought the ships of the American Steamship Company (the American Line) and in 1886 the Inman Line was purchased from the British owners. In 1902 the International Mercantile Marine Company was formed with help from J.P. Morgan, and the International Navigation Company merged into it. Griscom was president of this new company for two years and then served as chairman of the board of directors until his death.
Henry Threlfall Wilson founded the White Star Line in 1850 during the era of sailing ships, trading mainly to southern Australia after gold was discovered there. The firm and rights to its name were bought from Wilson for just £ 1,000 by Thomas Henry Ismay in 1867, with a view to expanding into the increasingly-profitable transatlantic passenger trade. In 1869, he formed the 'Oceanic Steam Navigation Company' to start a high-quality steamer service from Liverpool to New York. Harland and Wolff of Belfast [builder of the Titanic; Viscount Pirrie (1847-1924), led Harland & Wolff from 1896-1924,] built his first steamships during the following two years. Joseph Bruce Ismay became his father's partner in 1891, and in 1894 he first met William J. Pirrie (later, Lord Pirrie) who became the chairman of Harland and Wolff. J. Bruce Ismay became the Chairman of what was still called 'The White Star Line' in 1899, on his father's death. Ismay began almost immediately to expand the company's steamship services, buying in new ships from Pirrie. Ismay may have left himself over-extended by his new investments, because in 1902 the Oceanic Steam Navigation Company were approached by the International Mercantile Marine Company (IMMC), led by the American millionaire John Pierpoint Morgan. Morgan wanted to add control of the North Atlantic liner market to his control of American railways, and gave Ismay a Directorship on the IMMC board to do it. White Star Line ships still had British registration, flew the Red Ensign and were staffed by British officers, but the control was by and for American interests. Ismay's grand ambitions of seizing the Atlantic routes from government-sponsored Cunard were to be funded with American money. This was probably his biggest mistake, as he gradually lost control over the company his father had built. However, one of his fellow-directors was to be Lord Pirrie, whose Harland and Wolff shipyard was being developed into the exclusive provider of the large and opulent liners of the White Star Line. As Lord Mersey was to highlight during the British Board of Trade Inquiry, 'Titanic' was thus completely American-owned, as IMMC owned the capital assets of the Oceanic Steam Navigation Company. <http://www.dalbeattie.com/titanic/whitstar.htm>
Perkins, George Walbridge (Jan. 31, 1862 - June 18, 1920), started work at New York Life Insurance before joining J. P. Morgan & Company on Jan. 1, 1901. He relinquished most of his duties with the New York Life but remained connected with it until 1905. He took a leading part in the formation of the International Harvester Corporation, International Mercantile Marine Company, and Northern Securities Company. As chairman of a finance committee of the Young Men's Christian Association, he raised $200,000,000 for welfare work among American soldiers abroad. He was an original Trustee of Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.
Charles Steel, was an Englishman, who entered the employ of the Baltimore & Ohio when a young man and continued with it until his death. <http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/wv/taylor/bios/s340-001.txt>
Percy Chubb, an insurance broker from New York. <http://www.saumonquebec.com/anglais/r3001f.htm> In the spring of 1882, Thomas Caldecot Chubb and his son Percy opened their marine underwriting business in the seaport district of New York City. Having collected $1,000 from each of 100 prominent merchants to start their venture, they focused on insuring ships and cargoes. The Chubbs were adept at turning risk into success. <http://www.expo21xx.com/popup/5237.htm>
Edward J. Berwind was the president of the Ocean Coal Company that operated the Ocean Number-One mine in Herminie and the Number-Two mine just inside Hempfield Township. Edward later became the president of the Berwind-White Coal Mining Company (Ocean's parent company) after the death of his brother Charles. The Herminie Land Company comprised the privately owned properties on the south side of Sewickley Avenue occupied by business owners. The property on the north side of the street consisted of the coal company "works" and housing for the mine laborers. Other investors in the land company: W. A. (AL) Crist was first a paymaster and later a general manager at Berwind-White. William Buchanan Howell was a farmer, businessman and a founding director of the First National Bank of Herminie. James M. Guffey (originally involved in Gulf Oil) bought and sold coal lands in the Herminie area for E. J. Berwind's mining operations.
P.A. B. Widener, society man and promoter of many enterprises and traction schemes, whose son, George D. Widener of Philadelphia and his son Harry Elkin Widener, were killed on the Titanic--along with John Jacob Astor; Benjamen Guggenheim, a son of Meyer Guggenheim, a member of the Smelter Trust; George D. Wick, Youngstown, Ohio, a coal and iron magnate; Isidor Strauss, merchant and philanthropist, member of the firms of L. Strauss & Co., R.H. Macy & Co. and Abraham & Strauss; Arthur Ryerson of Philadelphia ; William C. Dulles, member of an old Philadelphia family ; C. Duane Williams, Philadelphia; Charles M. Hays, Montreal, President of the Grand Trunk Railroad, one of the most noted railroad men of the country; and Henry B. Harris, owner of the Hudson, Harris and other theaters. <http://nsonline.com/titanic/news11.htm>
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The above packets are ships of the first class, coppered and copper fastened. The greatest exertions will be made to promote the interests of importers, by the speedy and safe delivery of their goods. Nothing has been omitted in the construction and furniture of their cabins, which can contribute to the comfort of Passengers. The price of passage in the cabin is fixed at one hundred and ten dollars, or one hundred and forty dollars for the exclusive use of a state-room by one passenger. Wines and stores of the best quality provided without additional charge. The days of sailing will be punctually observed. For freight or passage, apply to the masters, on board, to
STEPHEN WHITNEY, GRACIE PRIME & Co., or ROBERT KERMIT, 74, South Street. New York, May 15, 1834.
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Union Line London Packets
The public is respectfully informed that a New Line of Packet Ships, composed of three British and two American, is established, to sail punctually the 25th of every month, (except when day of sailing falls on Sunday) from London and New York.
From New York
American Ship H. ALLEN, H. Wilson, Master, 25th June.
New British Ship UNION, Richard Hendewell, Master, 25th July
American Ship ANGELIQUE, E.L. Halsey, Master, 25th August.
New British Ship _______, ________, Master, 25th September.
American Ship H. ALLEN, H. Wilson, Master, 25th October.
From London
June 15-American Ship ANGELIQUE-leaves Portsmouth July 1.
July 25-New British Ship _____, do. August 1.
Aug. 25-American Ship H ALLEN, do. Sept. 1.
Sept. 25-New British Ship UNION, do Oct. 1.
The ships are all of the first class, and the proprietors of this Line look with confidence to a share of public patronage, from the facility which will be afforded in the regular transmission of merchandize[sic] from this port in British bottoms, and beg to assure their friends that every attention will be paid to the comfort and gentlemanly treatment of passengers, punctuality in sailing, and despatch of business.
The Ships connected with this Line will touch at Portsmouth. For Freight or Passage in London, apply to Mr. Junius Smith, Agent, New York Packet Office, No. 4, Fen Court, Fen-church-street; Charles Gumm, Broker, No. 1, Plough Court, Lombard-street; at Portsmouth, Mr John Lindigreen, Agent. At New York, George Sutton,
88, South street Wadsworth & Smith, Agents, 64, Broad-street. Rapelye, Wortherspoon & Co. Brokers, 7, Hanover-street. Or at Montreal, to Macdonell, Holmes & Co. June 13, 1835. STEPHEN WHITNEY, GRACIE PRIME & Co., or ROBERT KERMIT, 74, South street. New York, May 15, 1834.
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The Old Merchants of New York City BY: Walter Barrett, Clerk 1862 CHAPTER III: ***
Goodhue & Co. had many rivals to their line of packets, but none were successful. Robert kermit once started a line of "Saint" ships. He owned the ship "St. George," and he persuaded Stephen Whitney and old Nat Prime to become owners in a new ship called the "St. Andrew." The line never succeeded, although the latter once made a very short passage in the year 1834, and brought the intelligence of an advance in the price of cotton to Liverpool. She came in late one Christmas Eve. Old Mr. Prime lived at that time at the corner of Broadway and Marketfield street, (now Battery Place). Mr. Whitney lived only a few steps distance on the corner of State street and Bowling Green Row, (where he lived until he died very recently). These old heads, and two or three younger ones, had the exclusive news, and they intended to make the most of it. It was certain not to be made public until the day after Christmas. Letters of credit were prepared in the front parlor of No. 1 Broadway for one million of dollars. Walter Barrett was selected to leave next morning for New Orleans, by way of Wheeling, hoping that he would outstrip the great Southern mail, leaving two days ahead, carrying these credits in favor of Thomas Barrett and John Hagan, of New Orleans, both eminent merchants in those days. The letters ordered cotton to be bought so long as there was a bale in first hands in New Orleans. Mr. Barrett, the bearer of credits and orders, was told to spare no expense in order to beat the mail. It was now eleven o'clock, Christmas Eve. No one had thought about money for the expense of the messenger to New Orleans. Banks were all shut -- brokers too. Mr. Prime seized a blank check, and went up with it to the City Hotel. "Willard, for what amount can you cash my check to-night?" "How much do you wish, Mr. Prime?" "One thousand dollars." Mr. Willard had the money and gave it to Mr. Prime. It was in the pocket of Mr. Walter Barrett, the next morning, when he embarked at six o'clock in the boat for Amboy, commanded then by the since famous Capt. Alexander Schultz. The messenger, by bribing stage drivers, paying Mississippi boat Captains $50 or $75 -- not to stop and receive freight, reached New Orleans in eleven days. It was daylight when he got into the old City Hotel, in New Orleans, kept then by Mr. Bishop. Two hours, after John Hagan and Thomas Barrett had the letters of credit and orders to purchase cotton. The Southern mail did not arrive for three days. Before night, over 50,000 bales of cotton had been purchased at 11 or 12 cents, or about $60 per bale. That cotton was sold at 17 and 18 cents when cotton went up a few days after. Some was sent to Liverpool. the profit was on some lots over $30 bale, and was divided up among the New Orleans houses of Barrett & Co., and John Hagan Co., and the New York operators. The messenger had the profits of 200 bales awarded him, and his expenses paid. This operation was a lucky one for some of the owners of the St. Andrew, but it did not aid Captain Robert Kermit particularily, and the "Saint" line went down.
*** Few persons out of the city and not many in it, have any idea of the immensity of business transacted by such a house as Goodhue & Co. They sell a cargo of teas and China goods (worth perhaps $400,000) at auction or by brokers, with less noise than an eighth avenue dealer in teas and soap displays in an hour. They get their commission of two and a half per cent, and a guaranteed commission of two and a half more. In all five percent, or if the cargo is worth half a million, the commission of Goodhue & Co. would be $25,000. The guarantee commission is against loss to those who send consignments of merchandise to Goodhue & Co. The latter are obliged to sell on time, say four to six months credit to those who buy of them. If they sent the notes so received without endorsing them to the owner of the teas, or endorsing on said notes "Without recourse," and if the purchaser failed to pay -- then the owner would lose, and naturally be very indignant. So Goodhue & Co. and other commission houses guarantee their notes, and for so doing charge what they call a guarantee commission of about one half per cent a month. If a note is received by a house like Goodhue & Co. that is worthless they lose it, and not the owner of the teas or other merchandise, for whom Goodhue & Co. have acted and sold goods. It is said that so many failures occur in New York, that prudent as Goodhue & Co. are, and as well as they know the standing of wholesale merchants and other to whom they sell goods, their guarantee account is a losing one, and that in the last twenty years they have lost largely by it. At the same time it is safe to say that no foreign merchant would consign goods to Goodhue & Co. or any other commission house, unless they agreed to guarantee and make good the notes taken for merchandise, if not paid at maturity. In giving this brief sketch of Goodhue & Co. I have given a view to the readers of a commercial house of the old school -- one known in every part of the world, known to all leading merchants in the great commercial marts of commercial nations, and yet scarcely known to the millions in this city -- certainly to but a few of them above Wall street or unconnected with its influence. CHAPTER IV: It is said, and doubtless truly, that there is not a port in the known world where the American Flag has not floated over some American vessel. These vessels and those connected with them are mostly from the New England States. the Eastern built vessels go to every part of the globe. Nearly all of the established American commercial houses in foreign ports, wre founded by the supercargoes of American vessels. At first they visited these ports, sold their cargoes, and bought return cargoes. After a while it was found necessary to remain constantly at the foreign ports. For instance, in Canton, china, when it was the only port open to foreign trade, the first supercargoes became in after years the principal merchants. The great Canton house of Russel & Co., was founded by Mr. Russell, originally a supercargo for Mr. Gray of Boston. Goodhue & Co. became the agents of Russell & Co., in New York, except for a period when the brother of Mr. Russell was a partner of George Douglass, who did business thirty years ago at No. 22 Broad street. Russell was a poor Connecticut boy at the start. He has since erected a palace in his native village, at a cost of a quarter of a million.The firm of Talbott, Olyphant & Co., in south street, had a house in Canton -- Olyphant & Co. The original supercargo who founded that house in Canton was D. W.C. Olyphant. All connected with this house were pious people. Gutzlaff, who thirty years ago, dressed as a Chinese, and penetrated into the interior of China, always stopped at Olyphant's in the American Hong. Olyphant, the original supercargo, was a Quaker. They had a famed ship named the "Roman." Another celebrated East India firm was that of Hoyt & Tom. Hoyt died only a few days ago. One of his sons married a daughter of General Scott. Their ship was the famous "Sabrina." Goold Hoyt himself was in early years a supercargo for LeRoy, Bayard & Co., the greatest commercial house in the city sixty years ago. N.L. & G. Griswold was another China house. Their regular ship was the "Panama." The house that I have alluded to did very little other business except in Canton goods, teas, etc. It was a great business. A house that could raise money enough thirty years ago, to send $260,000 in specie, could soon have an uncommon capital, and this was the working of the old system. The Griswolds owned the ship "Panama." They started her from here in the month of May, with a cargo of perhaps $30,000 worth of ginseng, spelter, lead, iron, etc., and $170,000 in Spanish dollars. The ship goes on the voyage, reaches Whampoa in safety, (a few miles below Canton.) Her supercargo in two months has her loaded with tea, some china ware, a great deal of cassia or false cinnamon, and a few other articles. Suppose the cargo, mainly tea, costing about 37 cents (at that time) per pound on the average. The duty was enormous in those days. It was twice the cost of the tea, at least: so that a tea cargo of $200,000, when it had paid duty of 75 cents per lb. (which would be $400,000,) amounted to $600,000. the profit was at least 50 per cent on the original cost, ot $100,000, and would make the cargo worth $700,000. The cargo of teas would be sold almost on arrival (say eleven or twelve months after the ship left New York in May), to wholesale grocers, for their notes at 4 and 6 months -- say for $700,000. In those years there was credit given by the United States of 9, 12 and 18 months! So that the East India or Canton merchant, after his ship had made one voyage, had the use of the government capital to the extent of $400,000, on the ordinary cargo of a China ship as stated above. No sooner had the ship "Pananma" arrived, (or any of the regular East Indiamen), than her cargo would be exchanged for grocers' notes for $700,000. These notes could be turned into specie very easily, and the owner had only to pay his bonds for $400,00 duty, at 9, 12, and 18 months, giving him actually to send two more ships with $200,000 each to Canton, and have them back again in New York before the bonds on the first cargo were due. John Jacob Astor at one period of his life had several vessels operating in this way. They would go to the Pacific (Oregon) and carry thence furs to Canton. These would be sold at large profits. Then the cargoes of tea to New York would pay enormous duties, which Astor did not have to pay to the United States for a year and a half. His tea cargoes would be sold for good four and six month paper, or perhaps cash; so that for eighteen or twenty years John Jacob Astor had what was actualy a free of interest loan from government of over five millions of dollars. Astor was prudent and lucky in his operations, and such an enhormous government loan did not ruin him as it did many others. One house was Thomas H. Smith and Sons. This firm also went enormously into the Canton trade, and although possessing originally but a few thousand dollars, Smith imported teas to such an extent that when he failed he owed the United States three millions, and not a cent has ever been paid. ***
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CHAPTER V. In a former chapter, George Douglas was alluded to as having done a very large East India commission business; but the firm of George Douglas & Co., did a heavy business independent of India. This house was one of the very few that, in the contest between General Jackson and the United States Bank, sided with the President against the Bank. Almost all the merchants opposed Jackson. Not so George Douglas, who in 1832 held bank credits to the extent of $300,000. He was advised to sink polkitics, or let his political opinions be ventilated until he no longer needed the credits; but Mr. Douglas was not that kind of a man. He avowed his opinions openly and above board. It is needless to add, that the Bank of the Unitd States very speedily closed its accounts with the independent New York Jackson merchant. The stoppage of his credits injured him seriously, but he stood up under it, and although staggered did not fall. ***
But to return to the East India merchants. The large capital required in this business kept the mass of merchants from operating in that quarter of the world. A large tea firm, Smith & Nicoll, were very heavy importers until they failed. The sons however carried on the business for some years, as the old concern had the fortune to owe the United States a few hundred thousand dollars -- never since paid. One of these sons, Henry T. Nicoll, represented State street and Bowling Green in Congress for tow years. About twenty-five years ago the China trade underwent a complete change. A new class of men entered into it, and enlarged it very much. Up to 1834, the cargo of an East Indiaman, from China, was principally tea. A small quantity of china ware, ditto preserved ginger in cases of six jars each, costing in Canton $4,25, but sold here today for $9; a few hundred boxes of fire crackers, forty packages in each box, costing sixty cents in Canton, and sold here then for $1 to $1,12, but now worth from $2,50 to $3; a few thousand mats of cassia or Chinese cinnamon, weighing a pound or more, and used in stowing cargoes. This trash cinnamon is the only kind used i the United States, the real cinnamon from Ceyylon, such as is used in London by the great families, coming too high for American use. It can only be had here of druggists. The nasty stuff from China called cinnamon, impregnated with bilge water, is ground up and sold as cinnamon by all the grocers in the United States. It costs about one cent per pound in Canton. The cargo was commonly completed with silks. A house called F. & N.G. Carnes, two brothers, had a firm in Paris and one in this city. Frank Carnes resided in Paris, and N.G. in New York. They had made a fortune by importing drugs, fancy goods, etc., from Paris. These gentlemen took it into their heads that as the Chinese were an imitative people, they could send out sample of every fancy article made in Paris, and have it made in China at one-tenth part of the cost. An experienced clerk in their employ was sent out in a ship which they purchased called the "Howard." The speculation succeeded, and such a cargo was never brought to this country before. The profit was immense. Very small quantities of Chinese matting had been brought in any one ship up to that time. But the "Howard" had on board 4-4 6-4 5-4 7-4 of all sizes, patterns and colors -- black, white, checker goods, fine, coarse, and so forth. Over 6,000 rolls came in, and the owners doubled the money
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CHAPTER V Continued: The next trip of the "Howard" was to be a great one. N.G. Carnes had a tongue, great energy, and plans sufficient in his head to load and employ ten Chinese ships; but he lacked the needful money; so he inveigled two other houses, both blessed with plenty of money, into the Chinese trade. One of these firms Gracie, Prime & Co., composed of A. Gracie, Rufus Prime and JOhn C. Jay; the other firm was Henry & William Delafield, two twin brothers, red-headed and perfect images of each other. The arrangement for a fair share of profits was duly made, and N.G. Carnes was told he might "sail in." *** The "Thomas Dickinson" carried out a supercargo, younger than the rest; but what he lacked in experience he madeup in luck. The ship made the passage out in 97 days, and returned home in 90. But such cargoes were never heard of before, and in most cases the quantity of articles ordered was so extensive that the market was overstocked, and prices actually soon ranged lower in New York than in Canton! P.L. Mills -- who died up in Connecticut last May -- was the auctioneer for the concern. Philo Mills had two partners -- a brother, who became insane about the Westchester prophet, Mathias, and Thomas M. Hooker, who married a daughter of John H. Howland. ***
Some few articles paid enormous profits, others did not bring here the first cost in Canton. Duty was high, and of course; the freight on such cases of goods as fans, woodenware, and baskets, was enormous. It was decided by these firms to close up, and to abandon the China trade. Their losses were heavy; and so the old ship "Howard" was sold, and bought in by Gracie, Prime & Co., to place in the Liverpool lines of packets. It is hardly necessary for me to say that the great Canton merchants looked with scorn on these irregular interlopers -- such men as the Griswolds, Olyphants, Russels, Hoyts, eyc., these old India traders of New York. In Rhode Island, was the house of Edward Carrington & Co., immensely in the India trade. The Wetmores were connected with this house, and formed a New York concern called Wetmore, Cryder & Co. Cryder was from London. The China trade to America was not confined to New York and Eastern ports. The city of Philadelphia had merchants extensively engaged in the trade. They had great advantages in capital while the United States Bank was in existence, but labored under a corresponding, disadvantage in regard to market. The China cargoes, although owned in Philadelphia, had to be sold in New York, and a heavy commission paid to New York commission merchants. There were immense operators in Philadelphia twenty-five years ago. Bevan & Humphreys, Samuel Comly, John McCrea, Henry Toland, and such men are the names that occur to me. John McCrea owned nineteen ships at one time, or rather he had them mortgaged at one time. His agents in New York were Rogers & Co., one of the most remarkable houses that ever existed in New York. Lewis Rogers was a Virginian by birth, and he had a house in Havre (France) called Lewis Rogers & Co. In Paris, he was connected with the great bankers Fould & Fould Oppenheim. The Monsieur Fould of that concern is now the great finance minister of the Emperor Napoleon. Through this combination, Lewis Rogers got certain immense contracts to supply the French government with tobacco -- what is called "The Regie contract," and the profits were immense. Rogers was a very handsome man, and it is said his influence at the Court of Louis Philippe to get tobacco contracts, was more owing to his good looks than to his mercantile sagacity. In New York, the house of Rogers & Co. was managed by one of the shrewedest merchants that ever lived in New York -- Charles Sagory, to wit. This gentleman came from France in the time of the elder Napoleon, to escape the conscription. He became connected with the then greatest firm ever known in New York. I allude to LeRoy, Bayard & Co. In that house Mr. Sagory acquired a vast mercantile experience, and when he became a partner of the branch hoouse of Rogers & Co., he brought to it a capital superior to money. ***
John McCrea was a most curious man. I have spoken of him as owning so many ships. He seemed to do all his extensive business himself. He purchased a ship or built her, and would at once come to New York, and with Rogers & Co. make up a voyage for her. The mode of operating was ingenious, and while the United States Bank of Pennsylvania was in existence, could be done to any extent. We will say that McCrea purchased a ship for $30,000, (without a cent in his pocket) cash. He would go to Bevan & Humphreys (old Mat. Bevan was president, "to close up the concern" of the old United States Bank. I want to raise $25,000 on such a ship on the usual terms. I have got her a freight to Liverpool of $9,000, and I want to raise $5,000 on the freight list." Mr. Bevan would consent to the arrangements, and discount the notes of Mr. McCrea for six months. Mr. McCrea would take the sums and go and pay for the ship and receive a bill of sale for her. He would give another bill of sale to Bevan & Humphreys, and the register would of course be issued to B. & H. as collateral security for McCrea's notes. Bevan and Humphreys charged two per cent for making these advances. McCrea would plan his voyage well, and when the ship returned she perhaps had half paid for herself, and notes would be renewed until she was clear, when he would make her the basis of a new mercantile operation, and so it went on for years. Now and then McCrea would make an enormous sum. He really owned nineteen or twenty ships, and yet their registers were all acting as collateral security to some other operation, an iron mine in Juniata county, or a speculation of $250,000 in domestics, in New York, purchased by William Stewart, the dry goods broker. Millions on millions of business was done in this apparent loose way by Mr. McCrea. So long as he had cash for a margin he cared not. He kept no books, unless pencil figures on the backs of old letters, and little slips of paper in his pockets, could be called books. This extraordinary man had to be kept straight by Rogers & Co., for McCrea was always ready for an operation of $100,000 or $1,000,000, and would carry it through, and that, too, when he had to borrow a five dollar bill to carry him back to Philadelphia. Mr. McCrea had another great financial friend in this city. It was John N. Gossler, the New YOrk agent of the great bankers in London, Thomas Wilson & Co. Mr. McCrea named one of his new ships the "John N. Gossler." She made several very lucky voyages.
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A few dorrs below Wall street court entrance in 1830 was a marble building erected by Nathaniel Prime. It had offices in the upper part. The main floor was occupied as the banking rooms of the great banking house of Prime, Ward & King. What a wonderful firm that was thirty years ago! Originally it was "Nathaniel Prime, Stock and Commission Broker, No. 42 Wall street," in 1796. In 1808, he took in Samuel Ward as a partner, and the firm was then Prime & Ward. In 1816 Joseph Sands was made a partner, and the firm was Prime, Ward & Sands, still doing business at the old stand, No. 42 Wall street, until 1825, when the office was temporarily removed, in order that the present building might be erected. That year, James G. King was made a partner, and the firm was Prime, Ward, Sands, King & Co. Joseph Sands of the above firm, was a son of the celebrated Comfort Sands, who died in 1835. In 1826 Joseph left the above firm, and it again became Prime, Ward, King & Co. James Gore King, of the above firm, had previously been engaged in business in Liverpool, England, under the firm of King & Gracie. After he returned to this country, he was taken into the great firm for his financial ability, and the firm changed as above stated. ***Mr. Prime bought the house on the corner of Broadway and Battery Place, now occupied as the Washington Hotel. He lived there many years, and saw his sons and his daughters intermarrying with the first families in New York. Thirty years ago, Mr. Prime was deemed the third richest man in New York, and yet no one set him down as worth over a million! Thirty years ago there was but one man in this town worth over a million; that one was John Jacob Astor. There were four other rich men -- Robert Lenox, John G. Coster, Stephen Whitney, and Nat Prime; the latter was regarded as the most wealthy of the last four names. ***
His partner, Samuel Ward, was a splendid specimen of the old school New Yorker. He stood over six feet, and large in proportion. Fine arts was his forte. He lived on the corner of Fourth street and Broadway; the house is still standing; in its rear is a marble building, without windows on Broadway. Thousands in the last thirty years have made enquiry relative to that curious but windowless building. It was the Painting Gallery of Ols Sam Ward, of the firm of Prime, Ward & King. Mr. Samuel Ward was supposed to be immensely rich -- he died not worth a copper. His son married one of the Astor girls, and has plenty of money, keeps fast horses, is a sort of diplomat, and a very good fellow. Old Sam Ward was a brother-in-law of the celebrated Doctor Francis. James G. King was the business man of Prime, Ward & King. He was a son of Rufus King, once U.S. Senator from New York, Ambassador to England, and a great man in this Union in his day. James G. King had several brothers. One was the late Governor of this state, John A. King. Another brother was Charles King, the President of Columbia College, another was Edward King, an extraordinarily talented person, who went to Ohio, attained great distinction, but died early. Another was Doctor Frederick King, who died in this city. James G. King represented a district in Congress for one term. He was a very useful, but never a brilliant member. For twenty years he was the most intimate friend of Daniel Webster. He left the firm of Prime, Ward & King to found the house of James G. King & Son. Not long after the old firm failed. Mr. King's private residence for a great many years was at Weehawken Heights, New Jersey. He died a few years ago, leaving a large property and a great financial name. [It is unknown whether they were related, but George and Herman Brown's mother was a King--daughter of Rufus Young King--a person of some importance in the early days of Texas. LJM]
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Among the Dutch names that claim rights among the old clique I allude to, are found the Van Rensselaers, LeRoys, Schuylers, Stuyvesants, Beeckmans, Bleeckers, Strykers, Anthonys, Van Waggennens, Van Vleicks, Cregiers, Van Horns, Laurenses, Wyckoffs, Van Cliffs, Gouverneurs, Stenwycks, Janceys, De Peysters, Nevins, Ruyters, Van Wycks, Hoffmans, Van Cortlands, Provosts, Kipps, Verplancks, De Kays, Dyckmans, Vermilyeas, Bensons, Van Schaicks, De Forrests, Van Zandts, Brevoorts, Marvins, Vances, Van Horns, etc. The English descendants and Puritan stock are mixed up with the old Dutch breed in forming the highest class of society, though not the most showy. Originally the set went to New England, and came straggling into New York City in the course of years. They pioneered in the excitement that led to the American Revolution, and took an active part in the seven years war. There were such names as Kent, Jay, Alsop, Lawrence, Laight, Hicks, Phoenix, Post, Perit, Thurston, Jones, Wetmore, Hays, Woodward, Bard, Walton, Fleming, Delancy, Cruger, Marshall, Gibbs, Deming, Clarkson, Newbold, Fuller, Scott, Beach, Aspinwall, Curtiss, Waddington, Brooks, GRacie, Savage, Barclay, Goodhue, Grinnell, Ogden, Howland, Davis, Macy, Morton, Ray, Whitlock, Ward, King, Sands, and others. Another class of the old set are descendants of Huguenots who came here prior to the REvolution -- Lorrillard, Seguine, Masier, Delaplaine, Latourette, Law, De la Montagne, Jumel, Depau, De Rham, Pintard, Delevan, and Purdy.
It was from these names the managers of the "Bachelor Balls," were taken thirty years ago. Then the City Hotel, located on the block in Broadway above Trinity Yard, was the only head-quarters of the pure, genuine aristocracy of which we speak. Mr. Nathaniel Prime, of the great firm of Prime, Ward & King, did not legitimately belong to the old set. He claimed a place, however, for hsi sons and his daughters had intermarried with the Jays, the Rays, the Sands, the Palmers, and the undoubted old families. Aside from this, his partners were of the pure breed. Prime, Ward & King were the first large genuine private bankers in the city of New York. They allowed interest on all sums deposited with them for either a short or long term. They bought up good bills on Paris or London, and remitted to their bankers, and then every packet day, Prime, Ward and King were large sellers of their own sterling and French bills at one per cent more than they paid for the best private bills. Such was their credit. The firm had no rivals at that time. J.L. & S. Josephs had a banking house on the corner of Wall and Hanover. They were the agents of the Rothschilds, but had no such standing in this town as Prime, Ward & King. The members of the American banking firm were far-seeing men. The Josephs in this country would have been in their true element, had they done a mercantile instead of a banking business. As bankers, they were in too deep water, and finally made a desperate failure -- paying nothing. When the Josephs went to smash, they were succeeded by A. Belmont, who for twenty-two years has managed the banking business of the Rothschilds with great efficiency. Mr. Belmont has not only succeeded in this city as a banker, but as a politician and recently we had to admire his patriotic energy, when, as a delegate to the Charleston Convention, he manfully battled for the nomination of Mr. Douglas, in spite of family ties, which might have led him in a contrary direction. Old Nat Prime was a fearfully long-headed man. He could see through a mill-stone quicker than any other man in Wall street. But he was frequently sold. On one occasion a Hartford horse jockey, named Adam Hitchcock, sold him a leopard spotted horse for $1500. It was alright until the white and black horse got caught out in a rain, when such a mixing of paints occurred as perfectly astonished him. Mr. Prime left behind him three fine sons -- Edward, who succeeded him in the firm in 1831; Rufus, who at one time formed one of the firm of Christmas, Livingston, Prime & Coster. What a firm that was! Charles Christmas (he is now a partner of August Belmont) had been for fifteen years book-keeper, or head clerk, for Prime, Ward & King. He was a long-headed genius. Robert Livingston was a brother of Mortimer Livingston, of the Havre packet line agents, C. Bolton, Fox & Livingston, who married a daughter of Francis Depau, who married Sylvie de Grasse, a daughter of that Count de Grasse who commanded the French fleet on this coast in the Revolutionary war. Anothe member of the C.L.P.C. firm was Washington Coster. What a gay boy was Wash. Coster! He married a daughter of old Francis Depau, and there were cart loads of gold on both sides of the house. Wash, was not a son of old John G. Coster -- he was a nephew. Poor fellow, he was fond of good eating and good drinking, and he paid the penalty. He died on a sofa at Blancard's Globe Hotel in Broadway near Exchange Street, now a dry goods store. Wash, got no sleep for several days, and a celebrated Irish adventurer named John S. Nugent (who was hired by Cozzens as a bar-keeper, and wound up his week's work by running away and marrying the sister of Mr. Cozzens, (West Point Hotel) -- gave him a dose of morphine to make him sleep. It was successful, for poor Wash. has never woke up since, unless he made an unknown turn over in the grave. Mr. Prime had a third son named Frederick. He was a lawyer, and married a granddaughter of the great John Jay, chief Justice in Washington's day of the United States. What funny anecdotes I could tell about some of the members of that firm of C.L.P. & Co. To return to Prime, Ward & King. James G. King was an extraordinary man -- a superb financier. He was named after James Gore. Mr, King was a very domestic man -- fond of his children, and would make any sacrifice for them. He married a daughter of the celebrated merchant Archibald Gracie, who came to this country in 1765, before the war, and became eminent as one of the first merchants of the day. He had ships trading to the East Indies, to Europe, in fact, everywhere, and continued to do an immense business, under the seizure of several of his ships by France under the Berlin and Milan decrees of Bonaparte forced him to a failure. What a splendid old merchant was that same grand, god-like white-headed old man, Archibald Gracie. In 1827, 1828 and 1829, until the day he died, day after day, (except Sundays) I used to go to the Commercial Advertiser, corner of Pine and William, the Evening Post, in William street, where the Bank of America now stands, and to the New York American, No. 16 Broad street, and get those evening papers as regularly as clock work. Then when he died in 1829, there was a humble friend but a sincere mourner at his funeral, when they placed his body in the vault, only one foot from the sidewalk, on the north side of St. Thomas' Church in Broadway. I have said that James G. King was a great friend of Daniel Webster. So he was of Nicholas Biddle. At one time such was the influence of Mr. KIng that he held Wall stree in his hand, and some profane persons named him "the Almighty of Wall street." He was fond of a little fun occasionally, and liked a good joke or a story. He held a share in the celebrated "Tontine Stock." I have a list of all the original members of the Tonitne, and of such as now are living. (I think all the Gracie family and the King family had stock in the Tontine.) Mr. King had a horror of the three and the four per cent a month operations. On one occasion a merchant who was doing a very extensive business, and for whom Mr. King felt a sincere friendship, came to him and said: "Mr. King, I keep four large bank accounts, and I have offered heavily the best paper for discount. It is flung out as fast as I offer it. I shall have to go on the street, and do as others do -- get heavily shaved. Money is worth now three per cent a month. I have got to pay it. I do not see why I should not pay that to your house as well as on the street. I know you object to such transactions, but I cannot help myself. I will bring down my portfolio. It contains in "Bills Receivable" for over $200,000 of A No. 1 business paper. You can take your selection. I must have $100,000 in cash before another week." "No business can stand such a premium for money any length of time. It will use up a million capital very speedily, " said Mr. King "Oh, not at all. My business will justify my paying any rate of interest, however exorbitant." "Why discount for a short time? Why not make it for two or three years? I will not discount your good business paper. Pay your debts with it. I will discount your note for $100,000, if you will make it three years." "Thank you Mr. King. I will draw it at once. It is very kind in you, but don't you want collateral?" "No, sir. Mr. Miller (turning to his accountant,) take off the discount at three per cent, a month on $100,00 for three years, and draw a check for the balance for Mr. D. , wait a moment D., or give me your note for $100,000." The conversation became general, both were seated, when Mr. Miller, the accountant, handed the following memorandum to Mr. King: Note of Mr. D. payable three years after date, for $100,000 Discount at three per cent a month is thirty six per cent per year, and for three years 108 per cent, of - - $108,000 Balance Due to Prime, Ward & King - - - - - - - - -$ 8,000 "D., have you a blank check with you?" pleasantly asked Mr. King. "A check? What for?" "Why, Miller has handed me a statement, and I find that if we discount or shave your note for three years for $100,000 at three per cent a month, you will have to pay us $8,000." "Why this is absurd. I give you my note for $100,000, and get no cash in return, but have to give you $8,000 cash. Bah! "Be cool, D., and listen. I have done this purposely to give you a lesson, to show you where your mercantile career will end, if you submit to such extortion. Now if you will pledge me your word of honor that you will curtail your business and never pay more than seven per cent interest for money to carry on your trade, I will tell you what I will do. You want $100,000. Draw your note for that sum at ninety days, leave with me $100,000 of your best notes receivable, and I will give you the money less the ordinary discount of seven per cent." Mr. D. was grateful. He appreciated the lesson taught by Mr. King, and he is at the present moment one of the wealthiest men in the city of New York.
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Theodore and Edith had the following children:
+ 39 M i Roosevelt Kermit-96973. + 40 M ii Brig-General Roosevelt Theodore II-106517. 41 M iii Roosevelt Quentin-95335 was born in 1897. He died in 1918 in in battle France.
Theodore married (2) Lee Alice Hathaway-350214 daughter of Banker with Lee Higginson Lee John Clarke-179462 and Rose Harriet Paine-179463. Alice was born in 1861. She died in 1884.
Additional information per a web treatment (accessed 30-8-2007) of Senator John Forbes Kerry (b. 1943) by William Addams Reitwiesner Genealogical Services - email to: wargs@wargs.com (with help from David Curtis Dearborn and Gary Boyd Roberts et al.
30. Roosevelt Elliot-283873 (Theodore , Cornelius van Schaack , James Jacobus , Jacobus , Johannes , Nicholas , Claes Martensen van Rosenvelt , Progenitor ) was born in 1860. He died in 1894.
See US website on ancestors of William Addams Reitwiesner.http on Livingston of New York by Mary Van Deusen. http from stirnet.com file rooseveltrzmisc04.
Elliot married Hall Anna Rebecca-105136 daughter of Hall Valentine Gill Jnr-27987 and Ludlow Mary Livingston-65532. Anna was born in 1863. She died in 1892.
She is Anna Eleanor in http on Livingston of New York by Mary Van Deusen. http update on Livingston of New York. http from stirnet.com file rooseveltrzmisc04. See US website on ancestors of William Addams Reitwiesner.
Elliot and Anna had the following children:
+ 42 F i Roosevelt Eleanor (Anna)-127749 was born on 12 Oct 1884. She died on 7 Nov 1962.
31. Roosevelt Corinne Douglas-446092 (Theodore , Cornelius van Schaack , James Jacobus , Jacobus , Johannes , Nicholas , Claes Martensen van Rosenvelt , Progenitor ) was born in 1861. She died in 1933.
She had four children.
Corinne married Robinson Douglas Jnr-446093 son of Robinson Douglas-446094 and Monroe Frances-446095. Douglas was born in 1855. He died in 1918.
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Douglas and Corinne had the following children:
+ 43 F i Robinson Corinne Douglas-446091 was born in 1886. She died in 1971. + 44 M ii MemberNew York State Assembly Robinson Theodore Douglas-446111 was born in 1883. He died in 1934.
32. Roosevelt James Alfred-350258 (Silas Weir , Cornelius van Schaack , James Jacobus , Jacobus , Johannes , Nicholas , Claes Martensen van Rosenvelt , Progenitor ) was born in 1825 in NYC. He died in 1898 in Pyster Bay Long Island.
James married Emlen Elizabeth Norris-350259 daughter of Emlen William Fishbourne-472393 and Norris Mary Parker-472394.
They had the following children:
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