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570. Sir, Bart2 Clifford Thomas Aston Clifford-77607 (Thomas Hugh C. Constable-Clifford , Barbara Aston , James Aston , Walter Aston , Walter Aston , Mary Weston , Richard II Weston , Jerome Weston , Richard Weston , Cecilia Neville , Ralph Neville , Isabel Booth , Roger , Thomas , John , Thomas , John , Thomas de Booths , William de Booths , Adam de Booths , Progenitor main ) was born in 1807. He died in 1870.
From nigel batttysmith http.
Thomas married (1) Wife1 Chichester Mariane-68812 daughter of Chichester Charles Joseph-121056 and CNotknown Miss-121044 in 1827.
They had the following children:
752 M i Sir Clifford-Constable Frederick Augustus-74927.
Thomas married (2) Wife2 Brandon Rosina-68810 daughter of Brandon Senior-75186 and BNotknown Miss-100514 in 1865.
571. Constable Mary Isabella-330970 (Thomas Hugh C. Constable-Clifford , Barbara Aston , James Aston , Walter Aston , Walter Aston , Mary Weston , Richard II Weston , Jerome Weston , Richard Weston , Cecilia Neville , Ralph Neville , Isabel Booth , Roger , Thomas , John , Thomas , John , Thomas de Booths , William de Booths , Adam de Booths , Progenitor main ).
She is dr2.
Mary married Arundell Henry Raymond-330962 son of Arundell Thomas Raymond-255958 and Smythe Elizabeth Mary Anne-283584 in 1827. Henry was born in 1799.
thepeerage.com. Nigel Battysmith http update.
Henry and Mary had the following children:
+ 753 M i Arundell Theodore-255948 was born in 1828. He died in 1868.
574. Weld Mary Lucy-61144 (Lucy Bridget Clifford , Barbara Aston , James Aston , Walter Aston , Walter Aston , Mary Weston , Richard II Weston , Jerome Weston , Richard Weston , Cecilia Neville , Ralph Neville , Isabel Booth , Roger , Thomas , John , Thomas , John , Thomas de Booths , William de Booths , Adam de Booths , Progenitor main ).
thepeerage.com. She is an only child. Burke's LG for Weld of Lulworth.
Mary married Baron7 Clifford of Chudleigh Clifford Hugh Charles-64169 son of Baron6 Clifford of Chudleigh Clifford Charles-38158 and Arundell Eleanor Mary-38157 in 1818. Hugh died in 1858.
Burke's LG for Weld of Lulworth.
Hugh and Mary had the following children:
+ 754 F i Hon Clifford Mary Constantia-86667. + 755 M ii Baron8 Clifford Clifford Charles Hugh-84361 was born in 1819. He died in 1880. + 756 M iii Sir, VC Clifford Henry Hugh-138819.
575. Sir Knt, first speaker NZ House Reps Clifford Charles-67717 (George Lambert Clifford , Barbara Aston , James Aston , Walter Aston , Walter Aston , Mary Weston , Richard II Weston , Jerome Weston , Richard Weston , Cecilia Neville , Ralph Neville , Isabel Booth , Roger , Thomas , John , Thomas , John , Thomas de Booths , William de Booths , Adam de Booths , Progenitor main ) was born on 1 Jan 1813.
From http by nigel battysmith.
Charles married Hercy Mary Anne-120415 daughter of Hercy Progenitor-118926 and MNotknown Miss-112823.
They had the following children:
585. Earl1 Pembroke Herbert George Augustus-26871 (Henry Herbert , Mary Fitzwilliam , Frances Shelley , John Shelley , Elizabeth Weston , Benjamin Weston , Richard II Weston , Jerome Weston , Richard Weston , Cecilia Neville , Ralph Neville , Isabel Booth , Roger , Thomas , John , Thomas , John , Thomas de Booths , William de Booths , Adam de Booths , Progenitor main ) was born on 10 Sep 1759. He died on 26 Oct 1827 in Whitehall.
He is an only son. Burke's P&B for Lansdowne. Scorgie/Hudgson, table, p. 26. GEC, Peerage, Vaux of Harrowden, table, p. 228; Normanton, p. 642; Ailesbury, p. 65; Lansdowne, p. 441; Bath, p. 26; Southesk, p. 147. GEC, Peerage, Elphinstone, p. 61. GEC, Peerage, Pembroke, p. 428. Update per Cozens on 7-5-2007.
George married (1) wife2, Russian Woronzow Catherine Ekaterina-26872 daughter of Count3 Woronzow Woronzow Simon-116823 and Seniavina Ekaterina-11147 on 25 Jan 1808. Catherine was born on 24 Oct 1783. She was christened in 1808 in active. She died on 27 Mar 1856 in 1 Grafton St Midx.
She is an only dr. GEC, Peerage, Ailesbury, p. 65; Pembroke, p. 428. Update per Cozens on 7-5-2007.
George and Catherine had the following children:
+ 762 M i MP Rt Hon Coloniser Herbert Sydney-29295 was born in 1810. He died in 1861. 763 F ii Herbert Mary Caroline-27137 was born on 22 Mar 1813. She died on 20 Jan 1892 in Pall Mall.
She is dr3. GEC, Peerage, Ailsebury, p. 65; Vaux of Harrowden, table, p. 228.Mary married Earl8 Ailesbury, Earl8 Cardigan, Mqs2 Ailesbury Brudenell-Bruce George William Frederick-46611 son of Sir Mqs1 Aislesbury Brudenell-Bruce Charles-27139 and wife1 Hill Henrietta Maria-27140 on 11 May 1837. George was born on 8 Jun 1863. He died on 10 Apr 1894.
He is an only son by wife1. GEC, Peerage, Cardigan, p. 18. GEC, Peerage, Ailesbury, pp. 64ff.764 F iii wife1 Herbert Georgiana-27934 was born on 3 Aug 1817. She died on 28 Feb 1841.
She is dr5. GEC, Peerage, Lansdowne, p. 441.Georgiana married parent problem, Lord Treasury Henry Mqs4 Lansdowne rail manager Petty-Fitzmauric Earl5 Kerry-59328 son of Earl Kerry Petty-Fitzmaurice William Thomas-63412 and Ponsonby Augusta Lavinia Priscilla-63413 on 18 Aug 1840. Henry was born on 7 Jan 1816. He died on 5 Jul 1866.
Burke's P&B for Lansdowne. Stenton, Brit Partls, Vol. ?, p. 348. GEC, Peerage, Lansdowne, p. 441.+ 765 F iv Herbert Catherine-25170. + 766 F v Herbert Emma-83922. 767 F vi Herbert Elizabeth-209969.
stirnet file1 on Meade.Elizabeth married Earl3 Clanwilliam Meade Richard-209970 son of Earl2 Clanwilliam Meade Richard-298731 and wife1 of Bohemia von Thun Caroline Grafin-298735 in 1830. Richard was born in 1795. He died in 1879.
stirnet file1 on Meade.
George married (2) cousin, wife1 Beauclerk Elizabeth-18508 daughter of Beauclerk Topham-21208 and Lady, Lady Bedchamber Spencer Diana-29816 on 8 Apr 1787. Elizabeth died on 25 Mar 1793.
She is dr2 in GEC, Peerage, Pembroke, p. 428.
George and Elizabeth had the following children:
768 M vii Herbert George end of line-25632 was born on 26 Mar 1788. He died on 12 Jul 1793.
GEC, Peerage, Pembroke, p. 428; Vaux of Harrowden, table, p. 228.+ 769 F viii Herbert Diana-40601 was born on 5 Feb 1790. She died on 26 Aug 1868. 770 M ix Herbert Robert Henry Earl12 Pembroke-103575 died in 1862.
Re Vaux estate. It appears his father was not end of line? GEC, Peerage, Vaux, of Harrowden, table, p. 228.
586. Captain RN, Illegit Reebkomp Augustus Retnuh (Herbert)-16799 (Henry Herbert , Mary Fitzwilliam , Frances Shelley , John Shelley , Elizabeth Weston , Benjamin Weston , Richard II Weston , Jerome Weston , Richard Weston , Cecilia Neville , Ralph Neville , Isabel Booth , Roger , Thomas , John , Thomas , John , Thomas de Booths , William de Booths , Adam de Booths , Progenitor main ) was born on 23 Nov 1762. He died on 6 Feb 1797.
Code-red. He writes his will in 1796. He is known on ships as Capt. Augustus Montgomery RN. He in McKernan http is posted to Turkey area Black Sea etc as Royal Navy is expanded in 1791 because of Russian hostility in Black Sea, so he is on navy shi[p in area about 1794. Scorgie/Hudgson, p. 26. GEC, Peerage, Pembroke, p. 426. He is later surnamed, or surnamed himself, Montgomery, http by Betty McKernan of Whitall family. For centuries Smyrna was a cosmopolitan place with a large permanent European population. The westerners, from many different countries in W Europe, tended to marry among themselves, and all the families ended up related. The Maltass family went out there from England in the mid-18th cent. Reebkomp almost certainly met Susan Maltass (they married 1791) because he was posted to the area with the Navy (we know the Royal Navy was expanded 1791 because of Russian hostility in the Black Sea, and we know Reebkomp's ship was in the Mediterranean at least as at 1794). Whittall - For the full Whittall family tree see the source below. I only show the parts of this family that descend from Maltass. Whittall family tree by Betty McKernan. This tree confirmed by Smyrna records in [LDS IGI]. Sources yet to be consulted:
Charlton Whittall, born 1791, Liverpool, went to Smyrna (for commerce) 1809, founded C. Whittall and Co., Smyrna, 1811, Mar 1814 to Magdaleine Giraud - [Magdaleine Victoire Blanche, or Magdalene, born 1790], lived in family home, "The Big House", Bournabat (Bornova), nr Smyrna, [formerly an 18th cent. convent, think originally bought by his brother James, who died relatively young], The Big House was a Whittall family home for generations, he and his wife entertained King Otho of Greece there 1833, built the "English church", Bornova 1857 (the Anglican church of St.Mary Magdalene, consecrated 1864), wonder if named after his wife, in 1863 he entertained at his house the Ottoman Sultan Abdul Aziz (reigned 1861-76), The Big House is described as "the country home of Charlton Whittall", i.e. he also had a town house in Smyrna, see [Kalcas, 1983] on the visit, which quotes Spun Yarn by Sir Henry Woods, note [Kalcas, 1983] confuses the deaths of his brother James with that of his son James, had issue: Charlton Arthur Whittall, born 1816, Smyrna, merchant in Smyrna and Constantinople, married Elise Icard, died c.1866 in the Far East, age c.50 yrs, had issue [for more on their descendants see Whittall family tree]: Charlton Howard Whittall, born 1848. Helen Whittall. Sarah Madeline Whittall. Eugenie Whittall. James Arthur Whittall. Percy George Whittall.
Jack Whittall, born 1857, had issue: Daisy Whittall, mar Richard La Fontaine [born 1883] and had issue. Alfred Richard Whittall. Adeline Whittall. Frederick James Whittall, born Smyrna, 1863, mar 1887 to Adela Wilkin [dau of Marmaduke Wilkin and Adela Barker, she must be Adela Wilkin, dau of Marmaduke Edmond Wilkin and Adela ---, bapt 1st June 1864, Stoke, nr Guildford, Surrey [LDS IGI],
- this would look like Marmaduke, brother of Esther Johanna Wilkin, except his wife doesn't match].
Lizette Whittall, born 1864. James Whittall, of "The Big House", Bornova, born 1819, Smyrna. Whittall surname discussion forum says: "The family socialised amongst themselves and cousins ended up marrying cousins. Eventually the family spread out of Turkey and moved all over the world." In Izmir (Smyrna) a Whittall company still exists today. Augustus Reebkomp (later Montgomery). Re Augustus Reebkomp (later Montgomery) Main Sources:
Reebkomp's <A HREF="../sources.html#royal.navy">Royal Navy</A> record.
<a href="10th.earl.html#pembroke.papers"> [Pembroke Papers] </a>
<A NAME="sog" HREF="../Maltass/william.smyrna.html">MALTASS</A> paper
and microfiche in <A HREF="../sources.html#sog">[SOG]</A>
Document Collection.
(Left) Photo of what is believed to be a portrait of Reebkomp, whereabouts unknown. (Right) "Capt. Augustus Montgomery, R.N.", age 27, 1789, see .full.jpg. This is a quarter-size copy, in Reebkomp's family, of the (much superior) original by Sir William Beechey, which was commissioned by the 10th Earl, exhibited at the Royal Academy 1792 (everyone still alive), hangs in Colonnade Room, Wilton House.Augustus Reebkomp (later Montgomery), [descendant of Edward III], illegitimate son of 10th Earl of Pembroke, born 23rd Nov 1762, England, his will 1796 mentions a grant of a coat of arms from the Herald's Office "by which my father the Earl of Pembroke acknowledges me as his son", (todo) see, about as well-documented an illegitimacy as you could imagine, and about as well-accepted by the legitimate family, even Lady Pembroke generously welcomed him at Wilton (though she blocked his adoption of the surname Herbert), he was liked especially by his half-brother George (the future 11th Earl), who had no other brother, money came out of the Herbert family for them for almost a full hundred years, referred to in letters as "Reeb" or "Rep:", educ Eton 1767-71,entered (./sources. html#royal.navy") Royal Navy as child (first record June 1773, age 10), was allowed be present at Wilton during the Royal visit 1778, Apr 1778 (age 15), midshipman, on the Bienfaisant, Mar 1779, midshipman, Europe, Sept 1779, midshipman, Victor, serving with Royal Navy off America as at 1779, his Gibbon descendants said he was on Grand Tour with his half-brother, but this would be temp 1779, he was in Navy, Mar 1780 (age 17), appointed Lieutenant on the Hope, conflict with the newly-independent America, en route from `Charlestown' [a number of possibilities] to New York to join the Hope, he was captured 24th Mar 1780 off `Sandy Hook' [a number of possibilities] by an American privateer, carried into Rhode Island, July 1781 (age 18), appointed Captain of the Ranger, (later the Pigmy), took surname Montgomery on receiving his commission 1781, May 1782, Captain, Buffalo, June 1782, leave, Sept 1782, Captain, Borcas, May 1783, Captain, Concord, Sept 1783, leave (for nearly 5 yrs), May 1788, Captain, Mercury, May 1791, leave (got married, George conceived), mar post-May, 1791 [mar settled by 10th Earl] to Susan Maltass [born est c.1770], Jan 1793, Captain, Inconstant, the 11th Earl Pembroke writes to his mother, Aug 1793, saying that Reebkomp's marriage is not happy: "A Wasps' Nest there very likely is, but I fear she has been herself unsupportable to him, and she is such an execrable fool, that I am inclined to fear there are but small hopes and I have likewise heard enough to make me suspect that her conduct has not always been the most regular in any respect." [Pembroke Papers, vol.II], however, Reebkomp in his will 1796 still refers to "my beloved wife Susan",
As at Apr 1794, Inconstant is in Mediterranean [Steel's list], Jan 1795, Captain, Courageux, June 1795, Captain, Audacious, July 1795, Captain, Bedford, Nov 1795, leave (Elizabeth conceived), May 1796, Captain, Theseus, pron. `Thee-seus', will dated 13th June 1796, written on board the Theseus at sea, died on board his ship the Theseus at Cawsand Bay, Plymouth, 6th Feb 1797, age 34 yrs. This was just one week before the 2nd Battle of Cape St. Vincent off Portugal, 14th Feb 1797 (see guestbook and also here, the first of Nelson's naval victories against the French and Spanish (leading up to the Battle of Trafalgar 1805). After Reebkomp's death, the Theseus came out from England to join the fleet, with the crew a "hotbed of mutiny and intrigue". Nelson made it his flagship, under Capt. Miller, c.Apr-May 1797, and they restored order (Nelson would be Admiral of a fleet of ships). Note there was a later HMS Theseus in the 20th cent. Will pr (by 11th Mar 1797, Prerogative Court of Canterbury. Family names Augustus, Augusta and Montgomery in the Gibbon Susan, "otherwise Suzanne", "widow, householder, residing at Paris, Rue Neuve, Saint Augustin No. 62" [her mother was possibly French], will dated 12th Dec 1850, died 12th July 1851, age est c.81 yrs, admin 14th July 1853, "P.C.C." (must be Prerogative Court of Canterbury), "All property to her son Augustin Henry Saladin Montgomery", had issue: Rev. George Augustus Montgomery, born 7th Nov 1793. Elizabeth Montgomery, born 12th July 1796, bapt 13th July, parish of St.Margaret, think Westminster, Co. Middlesex, married 1814 to Arthur Gibbon. Augustin Henry Saladin Montgomery, not listed on Gibbon family tree, but lists him as sole beneficiary of his mother's will, pr 1853, not mentioned in Reebkomp's will 1796, possibly born after his death?, i.e. born late 1797, presumably should be "Augustus" - after his father the same document refers to his father also as "Augustin". Elizabeth Montgomery (portrait perhaps c.1825).
He is illegit son of Earl10 Pembroke. See http://www.humphreysfamilytree.com/Maltass/index.html
Augustus married Maltass-Malthus Susan-491586 daughter of Levant Co, Smyrna Maltass-Malthus William-125047 and Icard Marguerite-106444 in 1791. Susan was born in 1771. She died on 12 Jul 1851.
See http://www.humphreysfamilytree.com/Maltass/index.html She may have brother Benjamin. See http on Whittall family, m to eg Icard, which family arriving in Smyrna in 1809 from Liverpool forms a company C Whittall and Co., Smyrna, in 1811, firm still survives. It seems she has a son Augustin Henry Saladin Montgomery.
Augustus and Susan had the following children:
587. Evans Juliana-53597 (George Evans , Frances Fitzwilliam , Frances Shelley , John Shelley , Elizabeth Weston , Benjamin Weston , Richard II Weston , Jerome Weston , Richard Weston , Cecilia Neville , Ralph Neville , Isabel Booth , Roger , Thomas , John , Thomas , John , Thomas de Booths , William de Booths , Adam de Booths , Progenitor main ) was christened in 1782 in Married. She died in 1807.
GEC, Peerage, Carbery, p. 10; Vaux of Harrowden, table, p. 228.
Juliana married Hartopp Edward-53598 son of Hartopp Senior findzzzzzzz-76348 and HNotknown Miss findzzzzzzzz-100213.
GEC, Peerage, Carbery, p. 10; Vaux of Harrowden, table, p. 228, p. ?
Edward and Juliana had the following children:
+ 774 M i Hartopp Edward-53599 died in 1815.
589. wife1 Warter-Wilson Frances Juliana-111990 (Frances Anne Evans , Frances Fitzwilliam , Frances Shelley , John Shelley , Elizabeth Weston , Benjamin Weston , Richard II Weston , Jerome Weston , Richard Weston , Cecilia Neville , Ralph Neville , Isabel Booth , Roger , Thomas , John , Thomas , John , Thomas de Booths , William de Booths , Adam de Booths , Progenitor main ).
Guess if she is wife 1 or two. GEC, Peerage, Stradbroke, p. 322.
Frances married Earl1 Stradbroke Rous John-111989 son of Sir Bart5 Rous John findzzzzz-65001 and Bedingfield Judith-65000. John was born on 30 May 1750. He died on 17 Aug 1827.
He is an only son. GEC, Peerage, Stradbroke, p. 322. Burke's Landed Gentry, Vol. 1, edn 18, for Tyrwhitt-Drake. He is brother of qv Henry John Rous admiral and MP, Stenton, Brit Parls, Vol. 2, p. 335.
John and Frances had the following children:
+ 775 F i Rous Louisa Maria-107152. + 776 F ii Rous Charlotte-64021.
590. Frederick Rev Shelley Sir, Bart8-49669 (John Shelley , John Shelley , John Shelley , John Shelley , Elizabeth Weston , Benjamin Weston , Richard II Weston , Jerome Weston , Richard Weston , Cecilia Neville , Ralph Neville , Isabel Booth , Roger , Thomas , John , Thomas , John , Thomas de Booths , William de Booths , Adam de Booths , Progenitor main ) was born on 5 May 1809.
Burke's P&B for Shelley. Rev. Burke's P&B for Northcote, Iddesleigh. http on Hippisley line of Somerset, England.
Frederick married Hippisley Charlotte Martha-47963 daughter of Rev Hippisley Henry-103464 and HNotknown Miss-111624. Charlotte was born in 1812.
She is dr5. See Burke's LG for Hippisley. Burke's P&B for Shelley. Burke's P&B for Iddesleigh, Northcote. http on Hippisley line of Somerset, England.
Frederick and Charlotte had the following children:
+ 777 M i Sir Bart9 Shelley John-44034 was born in 1849. 778 M ii Shelley Frederick-12229 was born in 1850.
He is son2. See Burke's P&B for Bannerman. Burke's P&B for Iddesleigh/Northcote.Frederick married Lady Northcote Margaret Stafford-13503 daughter of Sir Earl1 Iddesleigh, MP FRS President Board Trade Northcote Stafford Henry-31617 and Farrer Cecilia Frances-31616 on 1 Jun 1882.
Burke's P&B for Shelley. Burke's P&B for Iddesleigh/Northcote.779 M iii Shelley Henry-145219 was born in 1850 in Circa.
591. John Villiers MP Shelley Sir, Bart7-20002 (John Shelley , John Shelley , John Shelley , John Shelley , Elizabeth Weston , Benjamin Weston , Richard II Weston , Jerome Weston , Richard Weston , Cecilia Neville , Ralph Neville , Isabel Booth , Roger , Thomas , John , Thomas , John , Thomas de Booths , William de Booths , Adam de Booths , Progenitor main ) was born in 1808 in London. He died on 26 Jan 1867.
He is son1. thepeerage.com. Burke's P&B for Shelley. He claimed the ancient barony of Sudeley. Stenton, Brit Parlts, Vol. ?, p. 348. http at rootsandleaves.com on Knight family, Richard Knight and Elizabeth Payne.
John married Knight Louisa Elizabeth Anne-9496 daughter of Rev Knight Samuel Johnes-176659 and Cuyler Anna Maria-383037. Louisa died on 15 Mar 1895.
Burke's P&B for Shelley. http at rootsandleaves.com on Knight family, Richard Knight and Elizabeth Payne.
John and Louisa had the following children:
592. Shelley Fanny Lucy-9007 (John Shelley , John Shelley , John Shelley , John Shelley , Elizabeth Weston , Benjamin Weston , Richard II Weston , Jerome Weston , Richard Weston , Cecilia Neville , Ralph Neville , Isabel Booth , Roger , Thomas , John , Thomas , John , Thomas de Booths , William de Booths , Adam de Booths , Progenitor main ) died in 1899.
Burke's P&B for Shelley. GEC, Peerage, Mount Edgecumbe, p. 318.
Fanny married Hon Edgecumbe George-9010 son of Visc Valletort Baron4/Edgecumbe Edgecumbe Richard-65307 and Lady Hobart Sophia-65308.
GEC, Peerage, Mount Edgecumbe, p. 318.
George and Fanny had the following children:
781 F i cousin, wife2 Edgecumbe Caroline Cecilia-65315.
GEC, Peerage, Mount Edgecumbe, p. 318.Caroline married Freemason Baron6 Mount Edgecumbe Edgcumbe William Henry Freemason-54516 son of Visc Valletort, Earl3 Mount Edgecumbe Edgecumbe Ernest Augustus-18368 and Feilding Carolina Augusta-65299 on 21 Apr 1906. William was born on 5 Nov 1832. He died on 25 Sep 1917.
He is Earl4. His name is William Henry Edgecumbe. He is Provincial grand master of Masons, Cornwall, 1872, Dep-Grand master of Grand Lodge of England, 1891-1896. GEC, Peerage, Abercorn, p. 9. GEC, Peerage, Mount Edgecumbe, p. 318.+ 782 M ii Edgecumbe Richard John-270590.
593. Of the treasury Shelley Spencer-176653 (John Shelley , John Shelley , John Shelley , John Shelley , Elizabeth Weston , Benjamin Weston , Richard II Weston , Jerome Weston , Richard Weston , Cecilia Neville , Ralph Neville , Isabel Booth , Roger , Thomas , John , Thomas , John , Thomas de Booths , William de Booths , Adam de Booths , Progenitor main ).
Spencer married Martin-Leke Susanna-176654 daughter of Martin-Leke Stephen Ralph-176655 and MNotknown Miss-176656.
They had the following children:
+ 783 M i Shelley Spencer-103581.
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