12. silk merchant Bird John-51346 (John , William , Progenitor 2013 ) was christened in 1780 in active,presumably.
Is this man an alderman? Christie, p. 105, has an alderman John Bird of London who has in-law family links with bankers Smiths of Nottingham. Christie, non-elite MPs, p. 85. He is a silk manufacturer. Pollock on Wilberforce, table.
John married Wilberforce Judith-49312 daughter of Wilberforce Robert Russia merchant, of Hull-11333 and Bird Elizabeth Of Barton, Warwickshire-11332.
She may be named Judith. Noted it seems only in Christie, non-elite MPs, p. 85. Pollock on Wilberforce, table.
John and Judith had the following children:
+ 14 M i MP silk trade Bird William Wilberforce-51345 was born in 1758. He died in 1836. 15 F ii Bird Mary-59504.
Table, Pollock on Wilberforce.+ 16 F iii Bird Hanna-59447 was born in 1757. She died in 1846. + 17 F iv Bird Lucy-365813 was born in 1764. She died in 1884. 18 F v Bird Rebecca-365848. 19 F vi Bird Anna Maria-365849 was born in 1767. She died in 1847.
13. Bird Robert Senior-78902 (Thomas , William , Progenitor 2013 ) was born in 1720/1723.
S. R. Cope, p. 202.
Robert married Merttins Mary-612071 daughter of Merttins John Henry-365775 and BNotknown Elizabeth-612070. Mary was born in 1727.
She m to Robert Bird. www.geni.com. www.geni.com. She has a cousin, John Henry Merttins. S. R. Cope on Bird, Savage and Bird, p. 202.
Robert and Mary had the following children:
20 M i London financier of Bird, Savage Bird Bird Henry Merttins-1662 was born in 1755. He was christened in 1782 in active. He died on 24 Oct 1818.
Code-red. Contractor. List from Kent's Directory, London for 1794:
Bird & Co. Silkmen, 1, Wood street, Cheapside
Bird Joseph, Sail maker, 6, Cock hill, Ratcliff cross
Bird Wm. Mercht. & Insurance broker, Old South Sea house, Broad street
Bird T. & W. Mercht. Aldermanbury Postern
Bird Wm. Hardwareman, 219, Strand
Bird Wm. Silk & Sattin dresser, 4, Primrose str. Bishopsgate str.
Bird, Dolbey & Co. Warehousemen, 65, Basinghall street
Bird, Savage & Bird, Merchts. 5, Jeffery's sq. St. Mary ax.
He is of Barton House Co Warwick. Re Henry Mertinns Bird, Is he fr of Rbt Myrtens who marries to Grenflle qv? Can put into mercs site. He deals with John Smith of Smith, Payne and Smiths, and Bird/Savage often discounted with Smiths, In Nov 1799 Bird, Savage formed a house in New York at 156 Greenwich St, under name Robert Bird and Co, had been dealing with NY Merchants Murray and Mumford, and Lessingwell and Pierpont for a while, such products as nankeens, yellow cotton cloth from Nanking, cinnamon and coffee. Isaac Clason a prominent New Yorker they dealt with for the London market. When his mother's cousin died, one John Henry Mertins, this man came into property at Barking and Dagenham in Essex. in 1777, he becomes a partner with Anthony Francis Haldimand. at 51 St Mary Axe, Haldimand kept on his own business in his own name. Later at 11 Bury Court, St Mary Axe. the Haldimand partnership ended in 1782, when Bird joned with his younger brothers Robert and Benjamin Savage. He is the leading partner of Bird, Savage and Bird, from 1782. S. R. Cope of Bird, pp. 202ff. This firm pioneered the marketing of American Securities and discounted with Smith, Payne and Smith. See p. 11, p, 23, in Kynaston, City of London. London re American commerce, London houses acting as bankers for the American trade, receiving the proceeds of consignments, Bird Savage and Bird operating 1782 and 1808 to be replaced by Barings. Birds etc operated by exporting manuf goods to South Carolina and in effect provided funds for such semi-tropical crops such as indigo and rice to be shipped to London. See Ziegler on Barings. See SR Cope's article, mentioning CF, Grace L. Lee, The Story of the Bosanquets. 1966. John W. Moore, Some Family Lines of James Peronneau DeSaussure and his wife Annie Isabella Laurens. Charleston, Carolina. 1958. See Birds' tree in W. R. Powell, (Ed), Victoria History of the Counties of England, History of Essex. Vol. V.
<p>Late 1803: According to David McCullough, John Adams. New York, Simon and Schuster, 2001, p. 576, a fine biography, John Adams when second president of the USA, and/or by late 1803 had invested personal funds, $13,000, with Bird, Savage and Bird, which failed in 1803. Adams had done so on the advice of his son, John Quincy Adams. Bird, Savage and Bird had been London-based British bankers for the US Treasury. To rectify the disastrous consequences of his mistake, John Quincy sold his own house in Boston, took out his savings, borrowed, and bought enough of his parents' property to cover the losses. Other notes from this book follow ... A website indicates that by 10 May 1797, Bird had been travelling from North Carolina to Pennsylvania. By 27 November 1798, Robert Bird had been associated with a shipment of arms from Britain to New York. A website indicates the cases in 1809 as associated with Bird, Savage and Bird, being in a court of South Carolina, (1) the USA (itself), (2) Sterry and others as assignees of H. M. Bird and Benjamin Savage under a British commission of bankruptcy [BSB were Henry Mertinns Bird, Benjamin Savage and Robert Bird their attorney] (3) Aspinwall and Others, assignees of Robert Bird, under an American Commission of Bankruptcy, (4) Several other American creditors of Brid Savage and Bird associated with South Carolina, (5 and 6) Various other British creditors of BSB and Thomas Parker, a debt collecting agent employed by BSB. Some issues wdere attached to merchandise sent to New York re an East India Co. ship Semiramis (of December 1802-1803). BSB had borrowed from the Bank of England. Outcome of cases not given. Semiramis was a China trader with a cargo said to be worth up to $500,000. She was headed for Newport Rhode Island following a three-year voyage to China, carrying silk, porcelain, tea, and "hard currency", silver or gold. Semiramis was on its second trip from China under Captain Jacob Smith when it sank. Following this, BSB, which had bankrolled the voyage, filed for bankruptcy without paying off a loan written against its cargo, which sparked a US Supreme Court case. We need to check if Semiramis had called by Sydney, see David Collins, An Account, Vol. 2, Chapter XIII, re arrival of Semiramis arriving to Sydney from Rhode Island in October 1798, and she and other American ship Argo sailed for China on the 7th (while on the 20th, Amerian ship Ann and Hope (owned by Brown and Ives) stayed a few days in Botany Bay, wanting wood and water, could not get into harbour due to winds, then sailed for China). for see Cumpston. A US website re Rhode Island says that on 9 June 1799, ships Semiramis Captain Jacob Smith arrived, was wrecked 2 March 1804 on Long Shoal, east end of Vinegar Sound, Nantucket Sound, with teas, sugar, nankeens and silks. </p>Henry married Manning Elizabeth Ryan-116724 daughter of AACo investor, MP, Gov BofE, slaver, West Indies merchant Manning William-55117 and Wife1 Smith Elizabeth Bessie-116723 in Apr 1778 in London,probably. Elizabeth was born in 1760 in Circa.
S. R. Cope on Bird/Savage, p. 202.+ 21 M ii Financier Bird Savage Bird Bird Robert Jnr-51404 was born in 1760. 22 M iii Bird Benjamin Savage-61300.
gaps12 S. R. Cope, p. 202.+ 23 F iv Bird Catherine-61297 was born in 1760. She died in 1803.
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